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« on: November 11, 2014, 06:45:10 pm »
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In the 20th century

1932 and 1980?
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2014, 07:36:34 pm »
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Wait do you mean you want this topic narrowed down to the 20th century?

Because 1860 is the obvious choice with the topic as is (with 1788 and 1796 being distant, but significant second and third places)

But making the 1700 and 1800s verboten opens up 5 big ones

Those being: 1916, 1932, 1964, 1968, and 1980. Narrowly I give it to 1932.

But 1860 easily in the grand scheme of things...easily!
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2014, 07:41:30 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2014, 05:58:16 pm »
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Wait do you mean you want this topic narrowed down to the 20th century?

Because 1860 is the obvious choice with the topic as is (with 1788 and 1796 being distant, but significant second and third places)

But making the 1700 and 1800s verboten opens up 5 big ones

Those being: 1916, 1932, 1964, 1968, and 1980. Narrowly I give it to 1932.

But 1860 easily in the grand scheme of things...easily!

I though that it was better to narrow the question to the 20th century, because 1788, 1796 and 1860 would be too obvious
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2014, 08:08:16 pm »
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Clearly, 2012. America will pay dearly for re-electing the socialist-in-chief Obummer, and Obamacare will single-handedly cause the irreversible decline of America.


November 6, 2012 will be remembered as the day America chose to go flying past the point of no return, our last chance for repeal and a new future for a stronger America based on the Constitution and our Founding Fathers' ideals, and we blew it.


Hope all you Obummertards are happy with what you've done. I don't know how you can look your children in the eye and tell them that you just voted away what was supposed to be their prosperous, freer future. Take the time to appreciate what a great country America used to be.

2012 was truly sad. Truly, it was. Just wear black from now on to mourn the death of our country. America is no more.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2014, 09:08:38 pm »
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No, in all seriousness: 1932 is the one I would choose, for the obvious reasons.
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Voice of Russia spokeswoman Natasha Fatale announced that in an Illumination Multimedia poll of Frostbite Falls, Minnesota gave the following results:

Bullwinkle J. Moose - 26
Rocket J. Squirrel - 21
Peter Peachfuzz - 2

When asked why the numbers didn't round to 100 percent, Ms. Fatale said, "Because it is people, not percent, we polled, darling."
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2014, 10:34:59 pm »
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1860, 1896, 1932, 1936, 1964, 1980, 1988
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2014, 12:42:44 pm »
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1800, 1844, 1860, 1876, 1896, 1932, 1948, 1968, 1980, 2000, 2008
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2014, 12:51:06 pm »
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1860, 1896, 1932, 1936, 1964, 1980, 1988

Why 1988?
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2014, 02:04:44 pm »
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1968
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2014, 07:19:27 pm »
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It basically started the modern alignment of politics with a heavy Northern Democratic vote. Before then, the South was often just as Democratic as the North.
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2014, 10:14:33 pm »
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1964
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2014, 07:13:51 pm »
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2014, 09:09:21 pm »
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1932 ended a period of essentially one-party rule.

1916 may have been the most consequential close election, coming before the US's entrance into World War One.

Although there's much we don't know.

For all we know if Dewey had won in 1948, it would have prevented the Republican resurgence with Ike, Nixon and Reagan.
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2014, 11:25:41 pm »
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1932 ended a period of essentially one-party rule.

1916 may have been the most consequential close election, coming before the US's entrance into World War One.

Although there's much we don't know.

For all we know if Dewey had won in 1948, it would have prevented the Republican resurgence with Ike, Nixon and Reagan.

And also started a period of one.
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2014, 10:01:52 pm »
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Here's a wild card: 1976.

Ford wins and all the woes of the late 1970's get pinned on the GOP. Watergate, vietnam, "malaise," Iranian hostage crisis, all perceived as a 12-year Republican orgy of incompetence and corruption. There is never a Reagan Revolution (with all that entails) in this timeline! Ted Kennedy (or someone very much like him) wins a landslide in 1980, opening the door for a second Great Society with Democratic super-majorities in Congress.

For all we know if Dewey had won in 1948, it would have prevented the Republican resurgence with Ike, Nixon and Reagan.

At least one historian has suggested that a Dewey victory would have prevented the resurgence of the southern strategy; stopped the GOP from adopting its intense Red-baiting campaign; and led to a much more liberal Republican Party in the long term. It's interesting to imagine a United States divided, today, between an anti-elitist, know-nothing "populist" Democratic Party anchored in the South (but with support from working-class whites nationwide)... and a business-oriented "progressive" Republican Party drawing support from educated whites and minorities across the country! Basically an extension of the 19th century's voting patterns.

Imagine a 2012 Democratic platform calling for single-payer healthcare and constitutional amendments banning abortion and same-se marriage.
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2014, 10:43:08 pm »
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2014, 12:20:55 am »
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Here's a wild card: 1976.

Ford wins and all the woes of the late 1970's get pinned on the GOP. Watergate, vietnam, "malaise," Iranian hostage crisis, all perceived as a 12-year Republican orgy of incompetence and corruption. There is never a Reagan Revolution (with all that entails) in this timeline! Ted Kennedy (or someone very much like him) wins a landslide in 1980, opening the door for a second Great Society with Democratic super-majorities in Congress.

Yeah, Republicans should be glad they lost '76 just like Democrats should be glad they lost '04. However, a couple things...

1. I'm not sure the Iran hostage crisis would have happened with Ford and Kissinger at the helm. I'm not being partisan though...some other foreign policy blunder might have happened instead.

2. Don't you think a move towards neoliberalism was inevitable at some point? Hell, Democrats might have been the one to implement it (the more left-wing parties have sometimes adopted free-market reforms in other developed countries simply because they were the ones in power when the reforms were most needed).
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