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ApatheticAustrian
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« on: May 19, 2017, 04:19:22 PM »



Poll: Trump losing Republican support just as he hits the rocks
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-trump-losing-republican-support-just-as-he-hits-the-rocks/article/2623657


GOP fears Trump will take the Republican Party down with him
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-fears-trump-will-take-the-republican-party-down-with-him/article/2623311


Between Trump and his national security adviser lie 'ferocious' internal politics
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politics/hr-mcmaster-donald-trump-foreign-trip-steven-bannon/index.html
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2017, 04:33:17 PM »

Excellent.
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2017, 04:36:44 PM »

Three spectacular stories that prove there is just so much winning going-on.
Are we all tired of all the winning yet ?
LOL.
The orange-haired slug's speech at a pre-election rally ....

“We're going to win so much. You're going to get tired of winning."

You’re going to say, ‘Please Mr. President, I have a headache. Please, don't win so much. This is getting terrible.’
And I'm going to say, ‘No, we have to make America great again.’
You're gonna say, ‘Please.’
I said, ‘Nope, nope. We're gonna keep winning.’
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2017, 04:37:43 PM »

In such a polarized electorate, this is truly glorious news.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2017, 05:48:12 PM »

Good, they are paying attention.
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2017, 08:05:43 PM »

That's the best news in a while. If T***p loses Republicans, it's over.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2017, 08:17:07 PM »

Nixon resigned because his base lost faith in him... Trump is seeing, or at least experiencing the same fate.
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2017, 08:30:56 PM »

That's the best news in a while. If T***p loses Republicans, it's over.

I think it's bad for democracy, really, if Trump is removed too quickly without HARD public evidence. Certainly not before 2018.

I would like at least to wait until Dems swamp midterms and we have evidence on Mike Pence too - PREZZY PELOSI.
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2017, 05:29:36 AM »

That's the best news in a while. If T***p loses Republicans, it's over.

I think it's bad for democracy, really, if Trump is removed too quickly without HARD public evidence. Certainly not before 2018.

I would like at least to wait until Dems swamp midterms and we have evidence on Mike Pence too - PREZZY PELOSI.

Not going to happen. No way Pence gets removed from office. He isn't stupid enough to make such mistakes. And even if Trump gets impeached, Pence will name a new vice president under the 25th amendment. Maybe someone also acceptable to Democrats.
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2017, 10:10:16 AM »

That's the best news in a while. If T***p loses Republicans, it's over.

I think it's bad for democracy, really, if Trump is removed too quickly without HARD public evidence. Certainly not before 2018.

I would like at least to wait until Dems swamp midterms and we have evidence on Mike Pence too - PREZZY PELOSI.

The most basic reality about Donald Trump is that he does not fully understand what the Presidency is. He has seen the Presidency as an elected dictatorship (as he interpreted how things went while Obama was President -- don't ask for an explanation) and has acted like a dictator. Like Putin. Never mind that the Constitution has rigid checks against despotic behavior by the President. (The biggest threat to American democracy is that lobbyists responsible only to their corporate paymasters have real control of Congress and most state legislatures). 

Preservation of the formality of representative government is necessary even if we dislike the results. I can imagine far worse than "President Pence" or "President Ryan" -- like a military junta. If we have a Pinochet, then the idea of "2018 elections" or "2020 elections".... let alone "2032 elections" might be moot. Pinochet ruled Chile, a country with political institutions similar in many ways to the United States before the 1973 coup, about as tightly as a Commie Party boss of a 'Socialist state' of the same time (except perhaps in North Korea) -- for sixteen awful years. 

The damage is done to the GOP majority in Congress. Democrats can win the House in 2018 and have a slight shot (they would have to hold every Senate seat that they now hold and pull off some surprises, but that's how they got a Senate majority in 2006 against an unpopular President). It may be better that Republican majorities in both Houses of Congress be able to appoint a new Vice President who is not from a rogues' gallery of fanatics and yes-men in the line of succession. 

So let us suppose that something happens to Trump or Pence before 2018. They will need to select a new VP. Of course that will be a Republican. But Democrats can veto Mr. "Y. Essmann" and "Mrs. F. A. Natical". That is all the power that Democrats will have in that process of nomination and approval. Maybe we can have someone who rejects the most egregious policies of Trump and Pence and will show some modicum of integrity. But that could be as much as we can hope for.
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