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« on: August 06, 2005, 01:02:05 pm »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4127654.stm

Dies after collapse. Details sketchy.
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2005, 01:30:02 pm »
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Seems the good always die young.
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2005, 03:51:25 pm »
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Seems to have been a heart attack... sad news and quite a shock really
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2005, 04:56:19 pm »
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Seems the good always die young.

Young?  He was almost 60.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2005, 05:11:36 pm »
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Young?  He was almost 60.

That is relatively young given the life expectancy in the Uk though, no?
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2005, 05:59:17 pm »
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Seems the good always die young.

Young?  He was almost 60.

That is relatively young given the life expectancy in the Uk though, no?

The average life expectancy at birth in the 1940s was about 65.  Not that big a difference.  (The current life expectancy at birth is about 75 I believe.)
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2005, 01:23:00 am »
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Young?  He was almost 60.

That is relatively young given the life expectancy in the Uk though, no?

The average life expectancy at birth in the 1940s was about 65.  Not that big a difference.  (The current life expectancy at birth is about 75 I believe.)

Life expectancy at birth is the average number of years a newborn infant would be expected to live if health and living conditions at the time of its birth remained the same throughout its life. Since conditions have certainly improved in the UK since the 1940s, that certainly shouldn't apply. Also, the life expectancy of people who have survived into adulthood is much higher due to infant and child mortality.
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2005, 03:39:48 am »
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Nice piece here: http://libsoc.blogspot.com/2005/08/robin-cook-1946-2005-paul-anderson.html
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2005, 06:19:26 am »
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Young?  He was almost 60.

That is relatively young given the life expectancy in the Uk though, no?

The average life expectancy at birth in the 1940s was about 65.  Not that big a difference.  (The current life expectancy at birth is about 75 I believe.)
"Life expectancy at birth" is a misnomer. We're actually talking average age of persons dieing. The actual life expectancy at birth for any given year is impossible to calculate as long as anybody born in that year is still alive.
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2005, 09:04:25 am »
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At any rate, I am amused by the headline on wikipedia:

"Robin Cook (pictured), former Foreign Secretary of the United Kingdom, dies after collapsing whilst climbing Ben Stack."

They make it sound like he died mid-coitus.
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2005, 03:30:02 pm »
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They make it sound like he died mid-coitus.

That did happen to a "rising star" Tory M.P in the mid '90's... sort of. Guy called Stephen Milligan; he died during what is usually described as a "bizarre sexual act"
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2005, 03:40:40 pm »
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They make it sound like he died mid-coitus.

That did happen to a "rising star" Tory M.P in the mid '90's... sort of. Guy called Stephen Milligan; he died during what is usually described as a "bizarre sexual act"

If I remember right he was mp for Eastleigh and an orange or tangerine was involved in the act
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2005, 03:54:57 pm »
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They make it sound like he died mid-coitus.

That did happen to a "rising star" Tory M.P in the mid '90's... sort of. Guy called Stephen Milligan; he died during what is usually described as a "bizarre sexual act"

If I remember right he was mp for Eastleigh and an orange or tangerine was involved in the act

Hmm, now I want to hear this story.
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2005, 04:02:30 pm »
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I believe it was something to do with gagging yourself to just before the point of death. Unfortunately for him he went beyond that point.
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2005, 05:54:35 am »
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One of the best, if the not the best, contemporary Commons debator's in my life time. He will be a great loss

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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2005, 06:15:04 am »
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Has anyone got a transcript of his responce to the Scott Report?
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2005, 06:29:36 am »
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i remember that thing with Milligan, one of those guys that like to choke themselves while masturbating.... i believe the Right Honorable Milligan went a little too far the last time he did it.

too bad about robin cook though. i read somewhere that Gordon Brown was going to bring him back into the government when he became prime minister.
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