In the event of a Trump landslide, which state is the only hold out?
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« on: May 22, 2017, 05:27:10 PM »

And why?
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2017, 05:46:47 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2017, 05:53:36 PM »

Assuming we're not counting D.C. then California.

California gave Hillary Clinton her second largest statewide percentage margin after only Hawaii. California is less likely to swing towards Trump than Hawaii given its sheer size and robust Mexican American population.

The other thing to keep in mind about California is that Trump got less raw total votes in the state than Bush did in 2000 and 2004. Less than Bush in 1988. Less than Reagan both times. And less than Nixon in 1972. In fact to find a Republican candidate that won the general election while getting less total raw votes in California than Trump did you have to go all the way back to 1968.
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2017, 12:27:00 PM »

Hawaii, Trump made enough in-roads with the WWC that it wouldn't be in the Northeast and if a Trump landslide is happening then presumably he's doing much better with Hispanics so it probably wouldn't be California. Clinton got her largest vote share there in 2016 and Obama got over 70% in 2008 and 2012 (granted he was born there but still, that's a pretty huge rout).
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2017, 12:29:49 PM »

CA, since most would-be Trump supporters have left the state. Even central and western Massachusetts, as well as the North and South Shores, could carry the state for Trump in a Trump landslide.
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2017, 12:33:09 PM »

Hawaii, Trump made enough in-roads with the WWC that it wouldn't be in the Northeast and if a Trump landslide is happening then presumably he's doing much better with Hispanics so it probably wouldn't be California. Clinton got her largest vote share there in 2016 and Obama got over 70% in 2008 and 2012 (granted he was born there but still, that's a pretty huge rout).

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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2017, 02:56:29 PM »

Hawaii, Trump made enough in-roads with the WWC that it wouldn't be in the Northeast and if a Trump landslide is happening then presumably he's doing much better with Hispanics so it probably wouldn't be California. Clinton got her largest vote share there in 2016 and Obama got over 70% in 2008 and 2012 (granted he was born there but still, that's a pretty huge rout).

Hispanics aren't a monolith. Young people in California, but young Hispanic people in particular, are fervently anti-Trump. I can't speak for Hawaii but the youth here despise Trump with a burning passion. If anything I expect the margin in California to be even wider in 2020 if Trump is the GOP candidate.
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