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[Gabu]

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

oh

[Emsworth]

Of all people to represent me, you had to choose an actor?

[MaC]

Strongly Agree
Agree
Disagree
Strongly Disagree

1.) Felons and those in jail should have the same voting rights as all other citizens. Disagree

2.) Ex-felons should have the same voting rights as all other citizens. Agree

3.) In general, people are just too obsessed with sex. Disagree

4.) We would all be a lot better off if people followed the Golden Rule. Which golden rule?  "Those that have the gold make the rules" or "Do onto others as you would want done to you"?

5.) The government's main responsibility should be to keep order. Disagree

6.) Music and the arts are essential for a community to flourish and should be funded by the government.  Disagree

7.) The right to revolution in the New Hampshire state constitution is a good thing that all states should have. Strongly Agree

8.) Improvement of the human race through eugenics should be a goal of the government. Disagree

9.) A Department of Peace should be added to the presidential administration.  Disagree

10.) The voting age should be lowered to 16. Disagree

11.) Immigration is one of the worst problems the United States faces. Strongly Disagree

12.) The government should not have any business with people's library records, gun purchases, or credit card use. Strongly Agree

13.) Restrictions on cellphone wiretapping should be loosened. On which side people doing it or government doing it?

14.) Criticism of religions such as Christianity and Islam are not protected by free speech. Disagree

15.) The drinking age should be lowered or abolished. Agree

[ilikeverin]

AAAH! Of all people to represent me, you had to choose an actor?

I just searched 'India'.

And I thought he looked vaguely familiar.  Isn't he that guy from Crossing Jordan?



Now you're Manmohan Singh.  Would you rather be someone else?

[Emsworth]

Now you're Manmohan Singh.  Would you rather be someone else?

Singh is much more reasonable than a mere actor. (But just to note, I bear no resemblance to either, or to any other celebrity whatsoever.)

[Emsworth]

To get back on topic, the Canadian Charter of Rights does not, Chief Justice McLachlin's assertions to the contrary notwithstanding, guarantee prisoners the right to vote. The whole decision predicates itself on the concept that denying felons the right to vote is not a "reasonable limit" (per Section 1).

As Justice Charles Gonthier put it, "the disenfranchisement of serious criminal offenders serves to deliver a message to both the community and the offenders themselves that serious criminal activity will not be tolerated by the community." Disenfranchisement is indeed nothing but a punishment, and is a perfectly reasonable limit on the rights of felons.

[Hatman 🍁]

To get back on topic, the Canadian Charter of Rights does not, Chief Justice McLachlin's assertions to the contrary notwithstanding, guarantee prisoners the right to vote. The whole decision predicates itself on the concept that denying felons the right to vote is not a "reasonable limit" (per Section 1).

As Justice Charles Gonthier put it, "the disenfranchisement of serious criminal offenders serves to deliver a message to both the community and the offenders themselves that serious criminal activity will not be tolerated by the community." Disenfranchisement is indeed nothing but a punishment, and is a perfectly reasonable limit on the rights of felons.

Well, the bottom line is they can now vote, and that is because of how the constitution was interpreted. Just like gay marriage.

[Emsworth]

Just like gay marriage.

Yes, of course, but on the other hand, the issue of whether the Charter required gay marriage was never decided by the Supreme Court.

[Hatman 🍁]

Just like gay marriage.

Yes, of course, but on the other hand, the issue of whether the Charter required gay marriage was never decided by the Supreme Court.

I suppose you are aware of the court cases earlier in the year, so I am guessing you mean they technically didn't make the decision. However, they have ruled that sexual orientation is included as something that can be descriminated against.

[Emsworth]

I suppose you are aware of the court cases earlier in the year, so I am guessing you mean they technically didn't make the decision.

Yes, the provincial courts were the ones who made the decision (except in Alberta, IIRC)

[Hatman 🍁]

Well, Alberta wasn't the only one, but that's neither here nor there.

[Emsworth]

Of couse, but we are talking about 5 year olds here, they need to be reminded. But I degress, these are the kinds of arguments people brought up during the woman's suffrage movement.

Just because an argument was incorrect when used against one movement (woman suffrage), it is not necessarily incorrect when used against another (child suffrage).

[Hatman 🍁]

Of couse, but we are talking about 5 year olds here, they need to be reminded. But I degress, these are the kinds of arguments people brought up during the woman's suffrage movement.

Just because an argument was incorrect when used against one movement (woman suffrage), it is not necessarily incorrect when used against another (child suffrage).

It comes from the same fear of a segment of the population voting. It's all poppycock in the end. 

[Emsworth]

It comes from the same fear of a segment of the population voting. It's all poppycock in the end. 

It has nothing to do with fear. It has to do with responsibility and maturity.

Incidentally, do you believe that insane persons should be able to vote?

[Hatman 🍁]

It comes from the same fear of a segment of the population voting. It's all poppycock in the end. 

It has nothing to do with fear. It has to do with responsibility and maturity.

Incidentally, do you believe that insane persons should be able to vote?

Yes, as they do now.

[MAS117]

1.) Felons and those in jail should have the same voting rights as all other citizens.
Strong Disagree

2.) Ex-felons should have the same voting rights as all other citizens.
No Opinion

3.) In general, people are just too obsessed with sex.
Disagree

4.) We would all be a lot better off if people followed the Golden Rule.
Agree

5.) The government's main responsibility should be to keep order.
Disagree

6.) Music and the arts are essential for a community to flourish and should be funded by the government.
Disagree

7.) The right to revolution in the New Hampshire state constitution is a good thing that all states should have.
Disagree

8.) Improvement of the human race through eugenics should be a goal of the government.
No Opinion

9.) A Department of Peace should be added to the presidential administration.
NO DENNIS

10.) The voting age should be lowered to 16.
No Opinion

11.) Immigration is one of the worst problems the United States faces.
Its a problem, but not one of the worse

12.) The government should not have any business with people's library records, gun purchases, or credit card use.
Agree/Disagree

13.) Restrictions on cellphone wiretapping should be loosened.
Disagree

14.) Criticism of religions such as Christianity and Islam are not protected by free speech.
Disagree

15.) The drinking age should be lowered or abolished.
Strongly Agree, lowered to 18

[Gabu]

It comes from the same fear of a segment of the population voting. It's all poppycock in the end. 

It has nothing to do with fear. It has to do with responsibility and maturity.

Incidentally, do you believe that insane persons should be able to vote?

Yes, as they do now.

I'm interested in your answer to this question: what do you believe the purpose of voting is?

[Hatman 🍁]

It comes from the same fear of a segment of the population voting. It's all poppycock in the end. 

It has nothing to do with fear. It has to do with responsibility and maturity.

Incidentally, do you believe that insane persons should be able to vote?

Yes, as they do now.

I'm interested in your answer to this question: what do you believe the purpose of voting is?

Am I missing something? Are you looking for some philisophical answer?

[John Dibble]

It comes from the same fear of a segment of the population voting. It's all poppycock in the end. 

It has nothing to do with fear. It has to do with responsibility and maturity.

Incidentally, do you believe that insane persons should be able to vote?

Yes, as they do now.

Do you believe that children should have the right to keep and bear arms?

[Ebowed]

I doubt he does, because he doesn't think adults should either

[John Dibble]

I doubt he does, because he doesn't think adults should either

Well he seems to believe that everyone, no matter their age, have every single fundamental right, and the right to bear arms is fundamental. If we're going to treat five year olds like adults we might as well be consistent.

[Emsworth]

I doubt he does, because he doesn't think adults should either

Well he seems to believe that everyone, no matter their age, have every single fundamental right, and the right to bear arms is fundamental. If we're going to treat five year olds like adults we might as well be consistent.

Yes, I agree. The next time a five-year old steals candy from a store, let's charge him with larceny and put him in jail for a year.

[Hatman 🍁]

I doubt he does, because he doesn't think adults should either

Well he seems to believe that everyone, no matter their age, have every single fundamental right, and the right to bear arms is fundamental. If we're going to treat five year olds like adults we might as well be consistent.

Yes, I agree. The next time a five-year old steals candy from a store, let's charge him with larceny and put him in jail for a year.

Oh, I agree with that too. It is for this reason, I believe those under 18 should not be accountable to the law, because they are denied voting rights.

As for "the right to bear arms" that is not a fundemental right, it's just something Libertarians create as an excuse to keep guns to make up for their small penises

[KillerPollo]

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Wow!! Just... WOW !!! HAHAHAHAHAHHA

[John Dibble]

As for "the right to bear arms" that is not a fundemental right, it's just something Libertarians create as an excuse to keep guns to make up for their small penises

At least we don't have small minds like some people here.