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« on: May 27, 2017, 11:20:47 AM »
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Section 4. Article III of the Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia shall be amended to read as follows:

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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2017, 02:29:06 PM »

I definitely like this idea compared to the way impeachment is set up now.  I think for something like that, it's always good to get a broad a consensus as possible without being so broad that it's impossible like Adam pointed out in the House thread.

This might seem like an unreasonable request, but I wonder if we might consider changing the threshold from 22 to 24?  Right now, we could theoretically reach 22 with 4 Senators and 5 Representatives, which is basically just a majority of both chambers (obviously there are other combinations too).  The reason why I bring it up is that's the most likely "partisan" scenario where a party that has a simple majority of both chambers could impeach anyone they want.  24 would at least force it to be a little harder since super-majorities in the House and Senate are kinda rare.
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2017, 04:39:13 PM »

     I agree with Senator Siren about increasing the limit. A two-thirds vote is required IRL, and while the variable levels of suffrage affect this threshold I do think it is a good number for us to adopt in our Congress as well. I will propose an amendment to Article III, Section 7, Clause iii:

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iii. When voting to convict or acquit the indicted officer, the vote of each Senator shall be counted thrice, and the vote of each Representative counted twice, such that the vote of every Representative shall be equal to two thirds the vote of every Senator. A sum of twenty-two twenty-four votes, so counted, shall be sufficient to convict the indicted officer.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2017, 06:31:32 AM »

I'll bump this for more senators to see.  This amendment has my support, with PiT's changes.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2017, 04:26:32 PM »

I'm going to motion for a final vote if no one has any comments.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2017, 03:25:29 PM »

     I am curious to know if the amendment will be counted in the text for the final vote.
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2017, 08:41:31 PM »

Well, as far as I can tell, no one claimed sponsorship on this one, so I'm not sure what to do with the amended. I suppose that's kind of my fault, since I keep forgetting to mention that these bills need sponsors.
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2017, 09:08:46 PM »

I can sponsor if no one else wants to.
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2017, 01:04:25 PM »

I'll sponsor it.  I like the idea here.  And I'll say that it's friendly.
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2017, 10:22:19 AM »

Siren is now sponsor. So, we ready to vote on this now?
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2017, 07:28:01 PM »

I am unless anyone has any objections.
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2017, 08:08:29 AM »

So I won't preside my own hypothetical trial anymore hahahaha
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2017, 11:47:25 AM »

     So now that Siren is the sponsor, does that mean the amendment has been incorporated into the text? This is a very important detail to hammer down in regards to this Constitutional Amendment.
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2017, 07:32:02 PM »

I will support this when the vote is opened.
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2017, 11:13:45 AM »

     So now that Siren is the sponsor, does that mean the amendment has been incorporated into the text? This is a very important detail to hammer down in regards to this Constitutional Amendment.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it would be, though we could have him confirm that it's friendly to be safe. Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2017, 11:40:09 AM »

I am a her.  Tongue  But yeah, confirmed that it's friendly. Again
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2017, 09:16:22 PM »

I am a her.  Tongue  But yeah, confirmed that it's friendly. Again

Oops, sorry, I just get used to using male pronouns on this website. Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2017, 03:46:34 PM »

Last call for any possible amendments.
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2017, 08:56:33 AM »

Okay, certainly I've given this enough time now. Senators, please vote AYE, NAY, or Abstain
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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2017, 12:49:47 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2017, 01:06:56 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2017, 01:22:43 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2017, 05:30:38 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2017, 07:47:38 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2017, 10:17:28 PM »

     Aye
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