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« on: May 27, 2017, 12:46:09 PM »

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/police_responding_to_ne_portla.html

He boarded the train and started yelling racial slurs at two black teenagers, one wearing a hijab. Some people tried to calm him down and he responded by stabbing three people, two of whom have died, one who is being treated in critical condition.
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2017, 12:58:03 PM »

but Muslims!
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2017, 01:20:15 PM »

Uuuuuuh excuse me I demand you change the title to "Free speech activist kills two on train in Portland"
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2017, 01:46:02 PM »

Life without parole for this little sh**t, no ifs ands or buts
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2017, 01:51:00 PM »

Uuuuuuh excuse me I demand you change the title to "Free speech activist kills two on train in Portland"

Shouldn't it be "radical white Christian terrorist kills two on train in Portland"?

Why won't Republicans say "radical white Christian terrorism"?
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2017, 01:57:27 PM »

Uuuuuuh excuse me I demand you change the title to "Free speech activist kills two on train in Portland"

Shouldn't it be "radical white Christian terrorist kills two on train in Portland"?

Why won't Republicans say "radical white Christian terrorism"?

Because a lot of Nazis aren't remotely motivated by Christianity.

Radical Christian terror and white supremacist/Nazi terror are often very different animals with different targets.
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2017, 02:01:41 PM »

While neo-Nazis often consider themselves to be at least nominally Christian, they rarely, if ever, cite their religion as their motivation for committing terrorist acts.
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2017, 02:01:49 PM »

Here is a recent tweet from the guy. MAGA!
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2017, 02:07:02 PM »

Here is a recent tweet from the guy. MAGA!


This is as confused as it is hateful.
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2017, 02:08:21 PM »

Here is a recent tweet from the guy. MAGA!

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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2017, 02:13:49 PM »


Yeah right, as if the killer expressed any of it.
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2017, 03:18:00 PM »

Let's call this terrorism, because that's exactly what it is. White supremacist terrorism.
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2017, 03:25:43 PM »
« Edited: May 27, 2017, 03:28:34 PM by Compassion Fills the Void »

Its not terrorism because this guy acted alone. Terrorism is specifically defined as involving a group.

Also he made comments on social media indicating he was a black metal fan so very unlikely he was a Christian.
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2017, 03:27:47 PM »

Its not terrorism because this guy acted alone. Terrorism is specifically defined as involving a group.

Not necessarily. The broadest definition of "terrorism" is any act of violence, committed for political reasons, designed to draw attention to a cause and spread fear.
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2017, 03:31:25 PM »

Its not terrorism because this guy acted alone. Terrorism is specifically defined as involving a group.

Not necessarily. The broadest definition of "terrorism" is any act of violence, committed for political reasons, designed to draw attention to a cause and spread fear.
Terrorism is designed to terrorize. This is terrorizing people, therefore, this is terrorism.
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2017, 03:32:36 PM »

Uuuuuuh excuse me I demand you change the title to "Free speech activist kills two on train in Portland"

Shouldn't it be "radical white Christian terrorist kills two on train in Portland"?

Why won't Republicans say "radical white Christian terrorism"?

Because a lot of Nazis aren't remotely motivated by Christianity.

Radical Christian terror and white supremacist/Nazi terror are often very different animals with different targets.
As the recent Tampa murders/plot shows, and as both BRTD and Runeghost know.
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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2017, 03:58:17 PM »

So the more I think of this, the angrier I am.

1. Where is the media? I've only saw this once on my Facebook newsfeed today, and it's a fairly liberal newsfeed at that. I understand if Fox News doesn't want to make their viewership cry by showing this, but everyone else? Come on. If this was a Muslim guy killing several people it would be plastered everywhere.

2. Where are the people who generalize Islam into one Big Bad IdeologyTM? Who paint immigrants and refugees - especially those who are Muslim - not as victims but as monsters? I guess they're too scared to defend their ideology here.

3. I wonder if social media sites will start taking responsibility for any reprehensible content like this on their sites. Right now, both this guy and the Bowie State killer posted on Facebook; is it possible for Facebook to take action like how they're taking action against Facebook Live videos of murders and rapes? Or are they (like the mainstream media) too scared of Trumpsters? And it's not just Facebook; other sites like Reddit should also be careful as to what they're spreading online.
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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2017, 04:11:37 PM »

http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2017/05/27/19041594/suspect-in-portland-hate-crime-murders-is-a-known-white-supremacist

Tried to start a riot at pro-Trump rally. Was thrown out by organizers with a baseball bat. This guy should've been on the authorities radar for sure.
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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2017, 04:27:33 PM »

http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2017/05/27/19041594/suspect-in-portland-hate-crime-murders-is-a-known-white-supremacist

Tried to start a riot at pro-Trump rally. Was thrown out by organizers with a baseball bat. This guy should've been on the authorities radar for sure.

But...but...leftists are the violent ones with their "antifa" and all that.

That said, it's disappointing that the authorities haven't intervened earlier, just like they didn't intervene to stop the Manchester bomber.
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« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2017, 04:37:51 PM »

http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2017/05/27/19041594/suspect-in-portland-hate-crime-murders-is-a-known-white-supremacist

Tried to start a riot at pro-Trump rally. Was thrown out by organizers with a baseball bat. This guy should've been on the authorities radar for sure.

But...but...leftists are the violent ones with their "antifa" and all that.

That said, it's disappointing that the authorities haven't intervened earlier, just like they didn't intervene to stop the Manchester bomber.
I'm not going to answer your first sentence. You and I both know what the numbers are showing.

As for the second one, yes. This guy should've been jailed for showing up with a baseball bat. That alone means he's coming for blood.
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« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2017, 04:44:06 PM »

Uuuuuuh excuse me I demand you change the title to "Free speech activist kills two on train in Portland"

Shouldn't it be "radical white Christian terrorist kills two on train in Portland"?

Why won't Republicans say "radical white Christian terrorism"?

White/Christian terrorism = troubled youth or mental illness.
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« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2017, 04:45:02 PM »
« Edited: May 27, 2017, 05:02:14 PM by We're never gonna have it so good! »

Saw this on Twitter. Is this fake news or real news? A lot of people are saying this guy is mentally ill and alternates between leftism and Nazism at the drop of a hat. It'd fit in with what we saw in Tampa last week if true. Terrorism is still terrorism regardless.

Edit: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.christian.581
His FB clearly shows he's all over the place. I don't want to dismiss this as "just another crazy white male" so we'll label this as misc. terrorism I guess? Strasserite terrorism? I dunno.

Edit Edit: Oh god, his FB is a treasure trove of lunacy. Posts about killing the Jews and voting for Bernie in the same paragraph. Liking pages ranging from Ben and Jerrys to various Nazi groups. The Nazi movement is getting weirder and weirder.

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« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2017, 04:51:15 PM »

It is time to adopt Europe's hate speech laws, enough is enough.
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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2017, 05:08:51 PM »
« Edited: May 27, 2017, 05:12:50 PM by We're never gonna have it so good! »

And Trump supporters are the "real" threat.....







The proposed "Jefferson Project" to create a new state in northern California is very popular with Nazis apparently.
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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2017, 09:33:22 PM »

This guy is a f-ing loony bird.

Honestly Facebook should consider reporting stuff like this to the police on their own initiative
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