Politico: Sanders revolution hits a rough patch

[Yank2133]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/29/bernie-sanders-ballot-losses-238889

This article pretty much highlights what many of us have been saying for a while. Passion and enthusiasm is great and the left needs that and to be fair, they are moving the Democratic party to the left on major issue such as healthcare. But eventually you have to win at the ballot box for the movement to actually be a movement IMO.

[Simfan34]

The Sanders movement should organize within the DSA. If they were to get just 3% of his voters their membership would increase to 350,000 or abouts, which would be near 20-fold increase.

[Mr. Smith]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/29/bernie-sanders-ballot-losses-238889

This article pretty much highlights what many of us have been saying for a while. Passion and enthusiasm is great and the left needs that and to be fair, they are moving the Democratic party to the left on major issue such as healthcare. But eventually you have to win at the ballot box for the movement to actually be a movement IMO.

TEA Party didn't exactly win right off the bat in '09 either. If 2018 doesn't pan out, THAT is a different story.

[Yank2133]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/29/bernie-sanders-ballot-losses-238889

This article pretty much highlights what many of us have been saying for a while. Passion and enthusiasm is great and the left needs that and to be fair, they are moving the Democratic party to the left on major issue such as healthcare. But eventually you have to win at the ballot box for the movement to actually be a movement IMO.

TEA Party didn't exactly win right off the bat in '09 either. If 2018 doesn't pan out, THAT is a different story.

True, but the Tea party had a bigger base, better organization and more funding.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

The Bernie movement is going to get its mojo back. Just look at what Hillary said today in California for God's sake.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Yawn.

Horrors! TWO Sanders-supported candidates (what, couldn't the DNC both to help these people at all?) lost in RED states, and that the establishment Dems managed to hang onto the California chairmanship by the skin of their teeth.

This tells me more about Politico than it does the Sanders Revolution. Why is Politico using Sander's back for target practice? (Gotta keep the useless neoliberal corporation-suckers happy?)

[DrScholl]

A losing primary candidate isn't exactly a great role model for winning.

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A losing primary candidate isn't exactly a great role model for winning.

You're right, Ronald Reagan shouldn't have bothered running in 1980.

[DrScholl]

Sanders is not Ronald Reagan. Not even close.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Politico continuing to be a mouth piece for the establishment.

[Pyro]

A losing primary candidate isn't exactly a great role model for winning.

You're right, Hillary Clinton shouldn't have bothered running in 2016.

FTFY

[Technocracy Timmy]

Sanders base and support is largely generational. Look no further than the exit polls and how his support skews by age group. It's gonna take a lot longer than 2 years for his movement to truly come to fruition. 2024-2028 is when the generational turnover will likely be complete.

[Shadows]

Do people expect races in Kansas & Montana where Dems lose by 15 to 30% to suddenly turn blue because of Sanders in a few months?  As TT said, given how skewed the age group based support is, it is expected to only get stronger with time, especially 2024 when boomers fall fast & millennials become 45% odd the voting population. But even by 2020, it should improve & strengthen. There's a lot of bandwagon effect, most people line-up behind the likely winner.

It takes a lot of time & effort to build a strong movement & then translate that to electoral success up & down the ballot especially if that movement has an ideology with stark differences to the current prevailing climate. This was never going to be easy!

[American2020]

Do people expect races in Kansas & Montana where Dems lose by 15 to 30% to suddenly turn blue because of Sanders in a few months?  As TT said, given how skewed the age group based support is, it is expected to only get stronger with time, especially 2024 when boomers fall fast & millennials become 45% odd the voting population. But even by 2020, it should improve & strengthen. There's a lot of bandwagon effect, most people line-up behind the likely winner.

It takes a lot of time & effort to build a strong movement & then translate that to electoral success up & down the ballot especially if that movement has an ideology with stark differences to the current prevailing climate. This was never going to be easy!

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-the-left-is-winning/

[Shameless Lefty Hack]

Sanders is not Ronald Reagan. Not even close.

I'm pretty sure everyone's in agreement that he's Barry Goldwater.

[Famous Mortimer]

I predicted long ago that the Sanders movement would never go anywhere because it simply has no candidates to pull from. Most of Sanders rank and file young supporters are simply too naive and too radical to be serious political candidates. His few established supporters are ideological oddballs like Tulsi and Kaptur who couldn't keep all his voters in line either. The best hope for social democracy is that the mainstream Democratic Party, all the neo-liberal Hillary hacks, realize its moral and political appeal. That seems unlikely though, especially since they can just win with their current platform as long as they keep pushing mass immigration.