Saudi Arabia General Discussion Thread: Purge Time with Finn and Jake

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I guess Salman is the most competent Saudi ruler since Faisal (well, other than Abdullah those in between were jokes).

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

The Saudis have upped the stakes in their war with Qatar.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-40378221

I don't know why they want to make Qatar into a Irano-Turkish client state, but that will be the net effect I think.  At least with the Iranians, Qatar will be able to preserve the illusion of independence, while capitulation would effectively make it Saudi Arabia's fourteenth region. Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani can't capitulate to these demands without losing everything the Thanis have been striving for over the last two centuries.

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Yeah that isn't a list that suggests the Saudis are interested in compromise. It is now far more likely than not that qatar will be expelled from GCC and become an Iranian ally.

[Lord Halifax]

Yeah that isn't a list that suggests the Saudis are interested in compromise. It is now far more likely than not that qatar will be expelled from GCC and become an Iranian ally.

How about Saudi military occupation and integration into Saudi-Arabia?

[Santander]

Yeah that isn't a list that suggests the Saudis are interested in compromise. It is now far more likely than not that qatar will be expelled from GCC and become an Iranian ally.

How about Saudi military occupation and integration into Saudi-Arabia?

If Saudis can annex Qatar, we should recognize Russia taking Crimea back from Ukraine.

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Yeah that isn't a list that suggests the Saudis are interested in compromise. It is now far more likely than not that qatar will be expelled from GCC and become an Iranian ally.

How about Saudi military occupation and integration into Saudi-Arabia?

Possible for the former, quite unlikely for the latter case. Irredentism is a big move in this day and age.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Yeah that isn't a list that suggests the Saudis are interested in compromise. It is now far more likely than not that qatar will be expelled from GCC and become an Iranian ally.

How about Saudi military occupation and integration into Saudi-Arabia?

Possible for the former, quite unlikely for the latter case. Irredentism is a big move in this day and age.

^They'll establish a puppet regime.

[ApatheticAustrian]

i was sceptical about going all-in against iran, i am super-sceptical of provoking turkey.

[Green Line]

The US should not be a passive obsever in this.  We have a duty to keep the peace.  If Saudia Rabia attacks, we need to intervene. 

[publicunofficial]

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That's assuring.

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That's assuring.

Just Al Jazeera or Qatar in general?

[NewYorkExpress]

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/24/mcdonalds-in-saudi-arabia-just-swore-allegiance-to-the-new-crown-prince.html

Interestingly, McDonald's, Burger King, and Domino's all "swore allegiance" to Crown Prince Salman.

I didn't know any of these eateries were in Saudi Arabia.

[Santander]

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/24/mcdonalds-in-saudi-arabia-just-swore-allegiance-to-the-new-crown-prince.html

Interestingly, McDonald's, Burger King, and Domino's all "swore allegiance" to Crown Prince Salman.

I didn't know any of these eateries were in Saudi Arabia.

Fast food and shopping malls are what pass for culture these days in most Gulf states.

[Zioneer]

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/24/mcdonalds-in-saudi-arabia-just-swore-allegiance-to-the-new-crown-prince.html

Interestingly, McDonald's, Burger King, and Domino's all "swore allegiance" to Crown Prince Salman.

I didn't know any of these eateries were in Saudi Arabia.

Burger King swore allegiance to a Crown Prince? A king can't be a vassal of a prince!

[SoLongAtlas]

Well we know for sure now, he truly will be the Burger King.

[Santander]

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/24/mcdonalds-in-saudi-arabia-just-swore-allegiance-to-the-new-crown-prince.html

Interestingly, McDonald's, Burger King, and Domino's all "swore allegiance" to Crown Prince Salman.

I didn't know any of these eateries were in Saudi Arabia.

Burger King swore allegiance to a Crown Prince? A king can't be a vassal of a prince!

Perhaps they're actually Burghers?

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

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That's assuring.

Trump helping to destabilize the Middle East because he doesn't like the coverage he got from Al Jazeera seems par for the course.

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Deposed bin Nayef confined to his palace.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/28/world/middleeast/deposed-saudi-prince-mohammed-bin-nayef.html

The Saudi monarchy has obviously never been democratic, but these look like the latest moves in a slow-motion coup by Salman's branch of the family.

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Deposed bin Nayef confined to his palace.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/28/world/middleeast/deposed-saudi-prince-mohammed-bin-nayef.html

The Saudi monarchy has obviously never been democratic, but these look like the latest moves in a slow-motion coup by Salman's branch of the family.

He's obviously consolidating power, and this is obviously related to the Qatar thing, too.

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Abdul-Rahman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud bites the dust.

[NewYorkExpress]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gulf-qatar-haj-idUSKBN1AF0L3

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Sounds to me like the Saudis don't want to negotiate...how much longer before they send troops into Qatar?

[Zioneer]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gulf-qatar-haj-idUSKBN1AF0L3

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Sounds to me like the Saudis don't want to negotiate...how much longer before they send troops into Qatar?

It sounds like the Saudis just want a fight with Qatar, regardless of what they do.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gulf-qatar-haj-idUSKBN1AF0L3

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Sounds to me like the Saudis don't want to negotiate...how much longer before they send troops into Qatar?

It sounds like the Saudis just want a fight with Qatar, regardless of what they do.

Picking new fights to distract from the fights they're losing is not a good strategy. Starting a war with Qatar would be like Hitler invading Spain after failing to take Moscow.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

The Saudis will just annex Qatar if they go down that road, it would be easy for them to do it. The Saudis now think that they should have control over the entire area. The Omanis don't really care but everyone else is in bed with the Saudis because of the fear of Iran and more riyals coming their way for "projects, development", etc.

Don't be ridiculous.  If the Saudis go down that path, they won't annex, they'll install their own puppet Al-Thani.  With hundreds if not thousands of Al-Thanis and no requirement for primogeniture, they should be able to find at least one puppet willing to have the Saudi hand up their backside.

[Simfan34]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gulf-qatar-haj-idUSKBN1AF0L3

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Sounds to me like the Saudis don't want to negotiate...how much longer before they send troops into Qatar?

It sounds like the Saudis just want a fight with Qatar, regardless of what they do.

Picking new fights to distract from the fights they're losing is not a good strategy. Starting a war with Qatar would be like Hitler invading Spain after failing to take Moscow.

Where have I heard that one before?