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« Reply #650 on: June 08, 2017, 07:27:24 PM »

LAB hold Makerfield.
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« Reply #651 on: June 08, 2017, 07:27:29 PM »


Replicate that swing and even Putney could go, all three Wandsworth constituencies voting Labour would be outrageous.
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« Reply #652 on: June 08, 2017, 07:27:33 PM »

!!!!!!!!!

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Big, if true.
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« Reply #653 on: June 08, 2017, 07:28:04 PM »

So what are our takeaways from this?

Mine are:

1. Hubris is still as powerful a force in human affairs as ever.
2. Muh fundamentals are overrated. Campaigns matter.
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« Reply #654 on: June 08, 2017, 07:28:11 PM »

!!!!!!!!!

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Am hearing Tories now giving up on a majority as they see more of the London results
WOOO!!!
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« Reply #655 on: June 08, 2017, 07:28:41 PM »

Have there been any con gains so far at all (have I missed any, since I hadn't seen any, or are there just none?)

It looks like maybe the Con vote is getting very inefficiently distributed, with most of their gains coming in safe labour areas in the north?
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« Reply #656 on: June 08, 2017, 07:29:02 PM »

Britain Elects‏ @britainelects  1m1 minute ago More  Told Labour may hold Newcastle Under Lyme. Would be a shock if so.

Analogy would be like McCaskill winning again.

lol

But yeah, wow.
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« Reply #657 on: June 08, 2017, 07:29:12 PM »

Is the YouGov model really underestimating Labour?

Mixed picture. Swindon South they overestimated them, for instance.
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« Reply #658 on: June 08, 2017, 07:29:29 PM »

Tooting voted to Remain, I presume? A 10+% swing from CON to LAB would be huge in Remain areas, huh.
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« Reply #659 on: June 08, 2017, 07:29:33 PM »

A lot of 2015 UKIP vote seems to flow to Labour instead of Tories like everyone just assumed.
many of them were 2010 Lab voters
I know that but the general assumption was that they were lost for the cause. They seem to have come back home.
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« Reply #660 on: June 08, 2017, 07:30:16 PM »

Mhairi Black holds on.
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« Reply #661 on: June 08, 2017, 07:30:37 PM »

DUP holds on to Lagan Valley and Strangford.
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« Reply #662 on: June 08, 2017, 07:30:54 PM »

Jeremy Corbyn now favorite of becoming PM on Betfair!!!
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« Reply #663 on: June 08, 2017, 07:31:04 PM »

So what are our takeaways from this?

Mine are:

1. Hubris is still as powerful a force in human affairs as ever.
2. Muh fundamentals are overrated. Campaigns matter.

3. Directly stating left-wing values is more effective than standing for some vague reasonableness.
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« Reply #664 on: June 08, 2017, 07:31:39 PM »

So what are our takeaways from this?

Mine are:

1. Hubris is still as powerful a force in human affairs as ever.
2. Muh fundamentals are overrated. Campaigns matter.

3. Directly stating left-wing values is more effective than standing for some vague reasonableness.

3a. It is in fact possible to win back working-class voters who've flirted with right-wing populism by doing so.
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« Reply #665 on: June 08, 2017, 07:32:32 PM »

If the trend continues, Britain will be ungovernable. I'm still... WOW.. Was not expecting this.
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« Reply #666 on: June 08, 2017, 07:32:37 PM »

Major DUP swing in Strangford and Lagan Valley. (Possibly because of CON collapse and TUV not contesting the seat.)
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« Reply #667 on: June 08, 2017, 07:33:04 PM »

So what are our takeaways from this?

Mine are:

1. Hubris is still as powerful a force in human affairs as ever.
2. Muh fundamentals are overrated. Campaigns matter.

3. Directly stating left-wing values is more effective than standing for some vague reasonableness.

3a. It is in fact possible to win back working-class voters who've flirted with right-wing populism by doing so.

In Britain, sure. Working-class voters have historically been much stronger for Labour than they've been for U.S. Democrats, so let's not act like this is directly comparable to America.
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« Reply #668 on: June 08, 2017, 07:33:07 PM »

would any uk citizen think about connecting this evening with brexit effects?
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« Reply #669 on: June 08, 2017, 07:33:52 PM »

CON hold Chelmsford.
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« Reply #670 on: June 08, 2017, 07:34:36 PM »

So what are our takeaways from this?

Mine are:

1. Hubris is still as powerful a force in human affairs as ever.
2. Muh fundamentals are overrated. Campaigns matter.
3. People just won't vote like the media tell them they are going to vote at the beginning of a campaign anymore.
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« Reply #671 on: June 08, 2017, 07:34:47 PM »

Robert Halfon has held Harlow for the Conservatives

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« Reply #672 on: June 08, 2017, 07:34:58 PM »

Not surprising at all.
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« Reply #673 on: June 08, 2017, 07:35:17 PM »

I actually think the takeaway here for me is that I second-guess my predictions too much, and I herd to the consensus repeatedly.

Over the last year, my gut instinct predictions included Brexit passing, Trump winning, and Labour gaining enough seats to make a hung parliament. But I pushed them out of my head as excessively unrealistic.
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« Reply #674 on: June 08, 2017, 07:35:23 PM »

brexit parties won 580 seats, and remainers won 14. this election was not about brexit.
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