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« Reply #675 on: June 08, 2017, 07:35:52 PM »

Looks like swings from LAB to CON occur in (to borrow a term) titanium-Labour constituencies, like West Bromwich East.
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« Reply #676 on: June 08, 2017, 07:36:03 PM »

So is Labour overperforming?
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« Reply #677 on: June 08, 2017, 07:37:08 PM »


Not sure yet...
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« Reply #678 on: June 08, 2017, 07:37:10 PM »

Regardless, it was a 5% swing from CON to LAB.
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« Reply #679 on: June 08, 2017, 07:37:15 PM »

brexit parties won 580 seats, and remainers won 14. this election was not about brexit.
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« Reply #680 on: June 08, 2017, 07:37:46 PM »

If the results hold, it's also notable how the recent terror attacks didn't scare people into voting Tory, which is quite surprising in my eyes.
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« Reply #681 on: June 08, 2017, 07:37:55 PM »

Ian Duncan Smith is under threat. Most Tory seats in London seem to be.


Yes, looking at Tooting, Darlington and Wrexham.
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« Reply #682 on: June 08, 2017, 07:38:03 PM »

Have there been any con gains so far at all (have I missed any, since I hadn't seen any, or are there just none?)

It looks like maybe the Con vote is getting very inefficiently distributed, with most of their gains coming in safe labour areas in the north?

Pretty much that. May thought the election was won, got arrogant and went for places she didn't really need instead of protecting the areas she truly needed. This, plus a very poor campaign overall, explain this appalling result. Hillary 2.0.

I bet she resigns tomorrow and since an autumn election is likely, there will be pressure for a quick solution for the leadership of the Conservative party. Boris is probably a very happy man right now.
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« Reply #683 on: June 08, 2017, 07:39:05 PM »

Looks like swings from LAB to CON occur in (to borrow a term) titanium-Labour constituencies, like West Bromwich East.

Yes, that sounds right and it will effect the national vote share.
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« Reply #684 on: June 08, 2017, 07:39:23 PM »

Map link anyone?
 
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« Reply #685 on: June 08, 2017, 07:40:27 PM »

LABOUR GAINS CLWYD!
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« Reply #686 on: June 08, 2017, 07:40:40 PM »

Lab gain Vale of Clwyd
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« Reply #687 on: June 08, 2017, 07:41:21 PM »

LAB GAIN VALE OF CLWYD!
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« Reply #688 on: June 08, 2017, 07:42:06 PM »

WOW Putney!!!
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« Reply #689 on: June 08, 2017, 07:42:38 PM »

I fail to see how much the conservatives could have gained by appealing to some of the leave voters in the labour heartlands of the north. The gap to makeup was far too large and given that so many old UKIP voters there were staunch labour supporters anyway, it seems like a lost cause....
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« Reply #690 on: June 08, 2017, 07:42:52 PM »


Is the "WOW" because the Tories held it or because there was a huge CON->LAB swing anyway? It's not showing up on the NYT map yet.
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« Reply #691 on: June 08, 2017, 07:43:00 PM »

Labor Gaines Val of Clwyd!
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« Reply #692 on: June 08, 2017, 07:43:16 PM »

brexit parties won 580 seats, and remainers won 14. this election was not about brexit.


314 for Hard Brexit (CON)
300 for Soft Brexit (LAB + SNP)
14 for Remain (Lib Dems)
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« Reply #693 on: June 08, 2017, 07:43:27 PM »

Jeremy Corbyn now favorite of becoming PM on Betfair!!!

What? Seriously?

Is Labour overperforming that well right now?
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« Reply #694 on: June 08, 2017, 07:43:44 PM »

Have there been any con gains so far at all (have I missed any, since I hadn't seen any, or are there just none?)

It looks like maybe the Con vote is getting very inefficiently distributed, with most of their gains coming in safe labour areas in the north?

Pretty much that. May thought the election was won, got arrogant and went for places she didn't really need instead of protecting the areas she truly needed. This, plus a very poor campaign overall, explain this appalling result. Hillary 2.0.

I bet she resigns tomorrow and since an autumn election is likely, there will be pressure for a quick solution for the leadership of the Conservative party. Boris is probably a very happy man right now.

It also seems (from what I can make of the results, anyway) like Conservatives are also making gains in Scotland, but similarly this is not likely to translate into seats. Meanwhile, Labour is making some gains (apparently) in Wales, which seems more likely to translate into seats. So apparently the overall popular vote will probably not be changed very much, but it could end up with significant seat changes to labour, simply because of the distribution of the vote. To me, this is an indictment of the FPTP system, similarly to the way in which the USA's electoral college and single member congressional districts/states (for Senate) is unrepresentative.
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« Reply #695 on: June 08, 2017, 07:43:58 PM »


Is the "WOW" because the Tories held it or because there was a huge CON->LAB swing anyway? It's not showing up on the NYT map yet.

Huge Lab swing. Cons got around 20,000 votes, Lab 19,000.
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« Reply #696 on: June 08, 2017, 07:44:21 PM »

So what are our takeaways from this?

Mine are:

1. Hubris is still as powerful a force in human affairs as ever.
2. Muh fundamentals are overrated. Campaigns matter.

3. Directly stating left-wing values is more effective than standing for some vague reasonableness.

3a. It is in fact possible to win back working-class voters who've flirted with right-wing populism by doing so.

In Britain, sure. Working-class voters have historically been much stronger for Labour than they've been for U.S. Democrats, so let's not act like this is directly comparable to America.

Sounds like a reason to get working on building that solidarity, but okay.
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« Reply #697 on: June 08, 2017, 07:45:06 PM »


Is the "WOW" because the Tories held it or because there was a huge CON->LAB swing anyway? It's not showing up on the NYT map yet.

Huge Lab swing. Cons got around 20,000 votes, Lab 19,000.
HOLY SHT!
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« Reply #698 on: June 08, 2017, 07:45:29 PM »

10 PERCENT SWING IN PUTNEY!
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« Reply #699 on: June 08, 2017, 07:45:46 PM »

LAB hold Clwyd South, approx a 2% swing from CON to LAB.
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