UK General Election, 2017 - Election Day and Results Thread

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Would May be the shortest PM in office ever?

Since Andrew Bonar Law in the 20s, yes.

Lol Bonar Law (one of the funniest names in political history)

Dick. Armey.

Dick Swett. Butch Otter.

How have we not mentioned Harry Baals?

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Newcastle-Upon-Tyne=Labour Hold

XD. Good to know they don't have to move out of HQ.

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>sees a pre-election poll
> "THE ELECTION IS OVER"
>sees an exit poll
>"THE ELECTION IS OVER"
>sees two results
>"THE ELECTION IS OVER"


Let's wait for the election to be over before armchair quarterbacking it, yes?

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Sporting Index markets moves more toward CON

CON    337
LAB     240
SNP      38
LIB       13.5

Political betting markets are a glorified version of getting predictive information from Atlas - fools who think they know politics making their collective opinions known.

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Is there a sense of whether or not there's going to be a rush of results at any point in time? Or are they going to trickle in?

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portsmouth south is rumored as a labour gain from the count

I realize what you're saying here, but I definitely read it as Labour knocking off a Tory MP who referred to himself as "The Count."

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so apparantly Clegg is a probable loser. Pretty hillarious if so, the local party only considered him a likely target about a fortnight ago.

Sort of off-topic, but does anyone know what a small but significant Parliamentary party's operation/budget look like? I'd imagine they wouldn't have great access to data modeling &c &c.

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Labour is outperforming in Wales. Wow.

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So what are our takeaways from this?

Mine are:

1. Hubris is still as powerful a force in human affairs as ever.
2. Muh fundamentals are overrated. Campaigns matter.

3. Directly stating left-wing values is more effective than standing for some vague reasonableness.

3a. It is in fact possible to win back working-class voters who've flirted with right-wing populism by doing so.

In Britain, sure. Working-class voters have historically been much stronger for Labour than they've been for U.S. Democrats, so let's not act like this is directly comparable to America.

Sounds like a reason to get working on building that solidarity, but okay.

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Map link anyone?
 

This posted earlier is good.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/08/world/europe/british-general-election-results-analysis.html

The Grauniad has a better map for proportion, but it's slow as molasses.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2017/jun/08/live-uk-election-results-in-full-2017

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According to BBC their exit poll is currently only off by 2 - overestimating LAB by 1 and underestimating CON by 1 from current results.

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Lib Dems have yet to win a single constituency...

This is very worrying

Uni students paying tuition fees rn would probably disagree with you

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Labour and SNP need to reach a detente in Scotland. As it is, the vote splitting going on is unacceptable.

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Bye bye Clegg!

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God the BBC performing lewd acts on Nick Clegg as he exits stage left is making me gag.

Every university student in the UK has been demonstrably hurt by his selfish ambition and cowardice.

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God the BBC performing lewd acts on Nick Clegg as he exits stage left is making me gag.

Every university student in the UK has been demonstrably hurt by his ambition and cowardice.

Give me a break with this. Tuition fees were tripled under Labour leadership. It's amazing how Clegg has to take sh*t for moderating the Cameron government when it could've been worse.

Oh yeah such a moderate government. So happy he was there. What a parrot patriot.

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May is not resigning.

For once, this lady appears to not be for turning.

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Two key points about the DUP:

- They aren't keen on austerity
- They aren't keen on a Hard Brexit (well, their leader Arlene Foster isn't anyway)

This is going to sound stupid/conspiratorial, but how worried should the world be that the Gov't is going to rest on a party that doesn't accept the Good Friday agreement?

So basically the balance of power in the U.K. is now held by the Ulster Volunteer Force because the PIRA won't take their seats

Bone up on your Troubles history, folks

Exactly. The degree to which this election which was supposed to be about Brexit and ended up being about austerity actually ended up with the balance of power hinging on the f[inks]ing Irish Question is dumbfounding.

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One thing that hardly anyone has noticed or noted anywhere but which I saw happening in my very own constituency* is that Labour has suddenly reclaimed all of those rural working class voters it had been shedding at a deeply alarming rate (and in all directions) these past fifteen years. Because of the electoral system it barely matters in practical terms (though has added a further boost to Labour's national PV total, do note) but it is an interesting development.

_{*Observed far more Labour posters than ones for other parties in the grimmer section of the market towns throughout the campaign. Which always used to be the case but had not been so for quite a while...}

At a minimum it'll mean that the Tories have to spend some amount of money in these places next election. Which is good.

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Any leadership poll not considering powerhouse Jacob Rees-Mogg is illegitimate.

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lol Rees-Mogg. He isn't even the most powerful or interesting Traditionalist Catholic from Somerset on the British right.

Pshh, you're just jealous of his haute couture and his rapier sharp, Eton-Oxford wit.

(in all seriousness I just saw him on the BBC election night feed and was captivated by the fact that this very strange man on my computer screen appeared to have stepped out of a portal from 1895. He seems like the personification of the Upper Class Tory Twit IMHO.)

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lol Rees-Mogg. He isn't even the most powerful or interesting Traditionalist Catholic from Somerset on the British right.

Pshh, you're just jealous of his haute couture

I mean I am, but that doesn't make him not a joke.

He's definitely a joke, but I do think that a government where he's PM and BoJo is either home or foreign secretary is a perfect encapsulation of what the Tories still are deep down inside.

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You're probably describing the run-away two most popular Tory MPs in the country, there.

Is this serious?

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Election retrospectives are quite often useless exercises in 20/20 hindsight, but I'd be interested in hearing the reaction to this article from some of the Labour activists I seem to recall being on the thread.