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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2017, 12:24:20 PM »

I oppose the idea of American law being replaced by shariah law or any other kind of religious law for that matter. However, these guys are just bigots.

Question.

Christianity is far more prevalent in American religion than Islam, right?

Okay.

So how come if something Christian, (bakers and gay weddings) comes up, you liberals get your panties in a bunch and get mad at the religious institution...but when it comes to something even less common, (islam) you defend it tooth and nail?


I'm probably not the best person to answer this question since I'm only liberal on some issues, but the difference is that Christianity has had a nasty history with the world. Plus, Muslims in America are a disadvantaged minority whereas Christians are a majority.

Well of course, but we're not talking about the crusades anymore, we're talking about the violence in the world today, so much of which is perpetrated by muslim extremists.

You ignorant, biased, ...Trumper.



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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2017, 12:36:23 PM »

What it boils down to (on top of outright bigotry) is deflection: the Christian right wants to impose religion as the law of the land, so of course they accuse Muslims of wanting to do this instead to distract people.

Be fair. The vocal religious right aren't actually Christian, they just  claim to be when they're on TV (or the internet). Just like with 'radical Islamic terrorism' (where most of the terrorists aren't actually practicing Muslims, or they wouldn't be doing what they're doing). I think that's an important distinction to make.
Their idea of "Christian" is to be white. They protest shariah, to protest Islam. They protest Islam to protest brown people.

because conflict based on religion isn't a thing
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« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2017, 12:46:03 PM »

What it boils down to (on top of outright bigotry) is deflection: the Christian right wants to impose religion as the law of the land, so of course they accuse Muslims of wanting to do this instead to distract people.

Be fair. The vocal religious right aren't actually Christian, they just  claim to be when they're on TV (or the internet). Just like with 'radical Islamic terrorism' (where most of the terrorists aren't actually practicing Muslims, or they wouldn't be doing what they're doing). I think that's an important distinction to make.
Their idea of "Christian" is to be white. They protest shariah, to protest Islam. They protest Islam to protest brown people.

because conflict based on religion isn't a thing

Largely not. Religion is almost always a proxy for other considerations.
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« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2017, 01:12:36 PM »

I oppose the idea of American law being replaced by shariah law or any other kind of religious law for that matter. However, these guys are just bigots.

Question.

Christianity is far more prevalent in American religion than Islam, right?

Okay.

So how come if something Christian, (bakers and gay weddings) comes up, you liberals get your panties in a bunch and get mad at the religious institution...but when it comes to something even less common, (islam) you defend it tooth and nail?


I'm probably not the best person to answer this question since I'm only liberal on some issues, but the difference is that Christianity has had a nasty history with the world. Plus, Muslims in America are a disadvantaged minority whereas Christians are a majority.

Well of course, but we're not talking about the crusades anymore, we're talking about the violence in the world today, so much of which is perpetrated by muslim extremists.

See, I've figured out the problem with the Democratic Party today. People say it's "identity politics" and they're right. However, liberals make an effort to sympathize with anyone who is "oppressed". Okay, fair enough. However, they refuse to sympathize with any majority that feels oppressed. Why? Perhaps they think the reason some feel oppressed is because others are no longer oppressed? But even still don't you then contradict yourselves?



Let's not forget that poor white people are oppressed, too.
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« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2017, 01:15:00 PM »

"We must take to the streets to protest the anarcho-primitivist threat!"
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« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2017, 02:48:29 PM »

Can someone tell me what cities, counties or states are in danger of falling under Sharia Law in the US?

The Saracen hordes have taken Edessa and Antioch and are marching towards Constantinople. This is an imminent threat!
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« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2017, 03:50:02 PM »

Can someone tell me what cities, counties or states are in danger of falling under Sharia Law in the US?

Well, Arizona, Arkansas, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Ohio, South Dakota, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Wisconsin, and Wyoming all seem to be in imminent danger of coming under religious law, but somehow I don't think that's what these fine specimens of Trumpism are protesting.

Side note, Utah does have heavy, heavy influence from Mormon doctrine, but not on all issues, on a fairly limited amount of issues like alcohol, marijuana, gambling, and so forth.
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« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2017, 05:45:44 PM »

What it boils down to (on top of outright bigotry) is deflection: the Christian right wants to impose religion as the law of the land, so of course they accuse Muslims of wanting to do this instead to distract people.

Be fair. The vocal religious right aren't actually Christian, they just  claim to be when they're on TV (or the internet). Just like with 'radical Islamic terrorism' (where most of the terrorists aren't actually practicing Muslims, or they wouldn't be doing what they're doing). I think that's an important distinction to make.
Their idea of "Christian" is to be white. They protest shariah, to protest Islam. They protest Islam to protest brown people.

because conflict based on religion isn't a thing

Largely not. Religion is almost always a proxy for other considerations.

This may come as a shock, but religion is really important to some people.
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« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2017, 06:03:33 PM »
« Edited: June 11, 2017, 06:07:34 PM by The Self »

What it boils down to (on top of outright bigotry) is deflection: the Christian right wants to impose religion as the law of the land, so of course they accuse Muslims of wanting to do this instead to distract people.

Be fair. The vocal religious right aren't actually Christian, they just  claim to be when they're on TV (or the internet). Just like with 'radical Islamic terrorism' (where most of the terrorists aren't actually practicing Muslims, or they wouldn't be doing what they're doing). I think that's an important distinction to make.
Their idea of "Christian" is to be white. They protest shariah, to protest Islam. They protest Islam to protest brown people.

because conflict based on religion isn't a thing

Largely not. Religion is almost always a proxy for other considerations.

This may come as a shock, but religion is really important to some people.

Especially those who use it as a veil to hide their own interests behind (even from themselves).

As for myself, I don't see that either Christian or Islamic fundamentalists are much worth keeping around.
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« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2017, 06:29:41 PM »

Funny how the Left now defends religious fundamentalism when it's not Christians.
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« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2017, 06:51:57 PM »

Funny how the Left now defends religious fundamentalism when it's not Christians.

I'm fine with fundamentalists of any stripe as long as they don't try to impose their views on the state like the Christian Right in this country.
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« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2017, 07:02:19 PM »

Funny how the Left now defends religious fundamentalism when it's not Christians.

I'm fine with fundamentalists of any stripe as long as they don't try to impose their views on the state like the Christian Right in this country.
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« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2017, 07:05:03 PM »

Funny how the Left now defends religious fundamentalism when it's not Christians.

I'm fine with fundamentalists of any stripe as long as they don't try to impose their views on the state like the Christian Right in this country.

Fundamentalist Muslims would never try to impose their views on anyone else, you're right.
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« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2017, 07:55:12 PM »

I oppose the idea of American law being replaced by shariah law or any other kind of religious law for that matter. However, these guys are just bigots.

Question.

Christianity is far more prevalent in American religion than Islam, right?

Okay.

So how come if something Christian, (bakers and gay weddings) comes up, you liberals get your panties in a bunch and get mad at the religious institution...but when it comes to something even less common, (islam) you defend it tooth and nail?


I'm probably not the best person to answer this question since I'm only liberal on some issues, but the difference is that Christianity has had a nasty history with the world. Plus, Muslims in America are a disadvantaged minority whereas Christians are a majority.

Lies. A Muslim American can be a wealthy businessman or model faster than a black or a Hispanic American. Look at the Hadids.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/family/hadids-became-first-family-fashion/
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« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2017, 08:19:20 PM »

I oppose the idea of American law being replaced by shariah law or any other kind of religious law for that matter. However, these guys are just bigots.

Question.

Christianity is far more prevalent in American religion than Islam, right?

Okay.

So how come if something Christian, (bakers and gay weddings) comes up, you liberals get your panties in a bunch and get mad at the religious institution...but when it comes to something even less common, (islam) you defend it tooth and nail?


I'm probably not the best person to answer this question since I'm only liberal on some issues, but the difference is that Christianity has had a nasty history with the world. Plus, Muslims in America are a disadvantaged minority whereas Christians are a majority.

Well of course, but we're not talking about the crusades anymore, we're talking about the violence in the world today, so much of which is perpetrated by muslim extremists.

See, I've figured out the problem with the Democratic Party today. People say it's "identity politics" and they're right. However, liberals make an effort to sympathize with anyone who is "oppressed". Okay, fair enough. However, they refuse to sympathize with any majority that feels oppressed. Why? Perhaps they think the reason some feel oppressed is because others are no longer oppressed? But even still don't you then contradict yourselves?



Nassau, you ignoramous. You realize that your post is in every single syllable the definition of identity politics? If you are siding with a bunch of c*********** waving flags glorifying throwing dissidents out of a flying helicopter. What the f*** do you not understand about your tire craze being identity politics, except you recognize only white people identity. You are the most politically correct poster on this website. You just Spanish distinguish that there is such a thing as conservative political correctness.

Grow the f*** up.
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« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2017, 08:21:45 PM »

Funny how the Left now defends religious fundamentalism when it's not Christians.

This is absolutely f*** all to do with protesting so-called religious fundamentalism. This is a protest by religious Fundamentalist. This is a protest against Muslims. Calling it approaches eye cancer Allah is a politically correct way of saying a protest against Islam, fundamentalist or otherwise. Is it really that difficult to understand?
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« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2017, 08:38:52 PM »

I oppose the idea of American law being replaced by shariah law or any other kind of religious law for that matter. However, these guys are just bigots.

Question.

Christianity is far more prevalent in American religion than Islam, right?

Okay.

So how come if something Christian, (bakers and gay weddings) comes up, you liberals get your panties in a bunch and get mad at the religious institution...but when it comes to something even less common, (islam) you defend it tooth and nail?


I'm probably not the best person to answer this question since I'm only liberal on some issues, but the difference is that Christianity has had a nasty history with the world. Plus, Muslims in America are a disadvantaged minority whereas Christians are a majority.

Well of course, but we're not talking about the crusades anymore, we're talking about the violence in the world today, so much of which is perpetrated by muslim extremists.

See, I've figured out the problem with the Democratic Party today. People say it's "identity politics" and they're right. However, liberals make an effort to sympathize with anyone who is "oppressed". Okay, fair enough. However, they refuse to sympathize with any majority that feels oppressed. Why? Perhaps they think the reason some feel oppressed is because others are no longer oppressed? But even still don't you then contradict yourselves?



While we're airing grievances, I do find it funny how many folks on the right really couldn't care less about how LGBT Americans are treated but suddenly become super passionate about gay rights whenever they're trying to advance an argument about the evils of Islam.
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« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2017, 08:49:42 PM »

I'm worried about my own safety under sharia law in the United States.  It's something that will affect millions of Americans and it really shows your privilege to dismiss me.
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« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2017, 08:50:58 PM »

I'm worried about my own safety under sharia law in the United States.  It's something that will affect millions of Americans and it really shows your privilege to dismiss me.

i am worried about my safety under Moon Law
please don't laugh at me
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« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2017, 09:00:07 PM »

I'm worried about my own safety under sharia law in the United States.  It's something that will affect millions of Americans and it really shows your privilege to dismiss me.

i am worried about my safety under Moon Law
please don't laugh at me

Evergreen just put it better then I ever could. Anyone who worries about Sharia law in this country is a genuine, unadulterated, undebatable moron. Not a difference of opinion. And uneducated ill-informed moron and or bigoted alarmist.

Where is worrying about right fascism and islamophobia is a very justifiable thing. Especially when it is presented in the guise of supposedly fighting Islamic fundamentalism
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« Reply #45 on: June 11, 2017, 09:04:07 PM »

I'm worried about my own safety under sharia law in the United States.  It's something that will affect millions of Americans and it really shows your privilege to dismiss me.

i am worried about my safety under Moon Law
please don't laugh at me

Evergreen just put it better then I ever could. Anyone who worries about Sharia law in this country is a genuine, unadulterated, undebatable moron. Not a difference of opinion. And uneducated ill-informed moron and or bigoted alarmist.

Where is worrying about right fascism and islamophobia is a very justifiable thing. Especially when it is presented in the guise of supposedly fighting Islamic fundamentalism

It's time for you to go to bed!
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« Reply #46 on: June 11, 2017, 09:12:51 PM »

I'm worried about my own safety under sharia law in the United States.  It's something that will affect millions of Americans and it really shows your privilege to dismiss me.

i am worried about my safety under Moon Law
please don't laugh at me

Evergreen just put it better then I ever could. Anyone who worries about Sharia law in this country is a genuine, unadulterated, undebatable moron. Not a difference of opinion. And uneducated ill-informed moron and or bigoted alarmist.

Where is worrying about right fascism and islamophobia is a very justifiable thing. Especially when it is presented in the guise of supposedly fighting Islamic fundamentalism

It's time for you to go to bed!

It's time for you to get a clue
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« Reply #47 on: June 11, 2017, 10:22:48 PM »
« Edited: June 11, 2017, 10:24:43 PM by Compassion Fills the Void »

I'm worried about my own safety under sharia law in the United States.  It's something that will affect millions of Americans and it really shows your privilege to dismiss me.

Please point to examples of how instituting Sharia law anywhere in the US is even a remote possibility or how it'll affect millions.

And I've called Islam a garbage religion and said that all adherents of it should renounce it and accept Jesus Christ, so please explain how I'm "politically correct".
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« Reply #48 on: June 12, 2017, 09:13:55 AM »

See, I've figured out the problem with the Democratic Party today. People say it's "identity politics" and they're right. However, liberals make an effort to sympathize with anyone who is "oppressed". Okay, fair enough. However, they refuse to sympathize with any majority that feels oppressed. Why? Perhaps they think the reason some feel oppressed is because others are no longer oppressed? But even still don't you then contradict yourselves?

You're wrong about that too.  The left fought for the rights of the oppressed black majority in South Africa, while people like Reagan supported the apartheid government.
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« Reply #49 on: June 12, 2017, 09:48:19 AM »

While I'm generally strongly opposed to Sharia law, we should protest against things that are a bigger problem in this country. Let's start at the top with our great leader.
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