Opinion of Woodrow Wilson

[TDAS04]

Literal HP. 

[Cashew]

Literal HP. 

[Wikipedia delenda est]

HP. Wilson was a racist and a white supremacist.

[Santander]

FF

[SoLongAtlas]

Mixed between FF and HP he tried for peace but was instrumental in punishing Germany which led to WW2. Isolationist to hawk over the Zimmerman telegram which really we could stop if Germany and Mexico tried to invade but I see the reasons for realism on that.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Top 5 worst US Presidents.

[fhtagn]

Literal HP. 

[RINO Tom]

FF

Why?  Was it his racism or his liberalism that attracted a "Christian conservative" such as yourself?

[Beet]

I don't get the stuff about Wilson being a racist- sure, he was even more racist than the typical politician at the time, but the difference between him and the contemporary median was surely less significant between the contemporary median and what's acceptable today. Besides, he was a Democrat with Confederate roots.

As a president, he was the height of the progressive era. His Fourteen Points were a worldwide epic-historical event, raising the hopes of third world liberationists everywhere, not to mention being highly prophetic of the overthrow of imperialism, one of the most significant and wide-reaching developments of his century. His income tax, federal reserve, antitrust act, direction election of Senators, and late endorsement of women's suffrage fundamentally transformed the nation. Not to mention, he is the president who oversaw America's rise into the top position in the world. As far as foreign policy, he was a reasonable dove who kept America out of that horrid war for as long as he possibly could have. One of the best presidents of the 20th century, only a few, like TR, FDR, maybe Reagan rival him.

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I don't get the stuff about Wilson being a racist- sure, he was even more racist than the typical politician at the time, but the difference between him and the contemporary median was surely less significant between the contemporary median and what's acceptable today. Besides, he was a Democrat with Confederate roots.

Err that's the point - all through his career as a historian and politician, he glorified the confederacy and diminished his crimes to the extent he did utterly shameless and retrograde moves on power that made any claim he had on international moral superiority completely invalid.

Anyway, Wilson was a disaster in terms of foreign policy, mishandling the entry into WW1, bunking the actual war almost as bad as Johnson did Vietnam and completely screwed up the peace process by pushing for the same petty nationalism that wrecked Europe in the first place. All his progressive moves were lifted wholesale from his opponents, and his domestic policy during WW1 was far more autocratic than any president before or since.

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Anyway, Wilson was a disaster in terms of foreign policy, mishandling the entry into WW1, bunking the actual war almost as bad as Johnson did Vietnam and completely screwed up the peace process by pushing for the same petty nationalism that wrecked Europe in the first place.

Is this the common perspective in Britain?  Everything was going fine until the Americans showed up?  The Allies wanted to usher in an era of universal brotherhood but Woodrow wouldn't let them?   

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Anyway, Wilson was a disaster in terms of foreign policy, mishandling the entry into WW1, bunking the actual war almost as bad as Johnson did Vietnam and completely screwed up the peace process by pushing for the same petty nationalism that wrecked Europe in the first place.

Is this the common perspective in Britain?  Everything was going fine until the Americans showed up?  The Allies wanted to usher in an era of universal brotherhood but Woodrow wouldn't let them?   

No, the common perception is that world war 1 was a stupid war that was fought by Europe's masses for the benefit of stupid, aristocratic elites and their dumb war games. None of the postwar leaders were remotely interested in genuine reform, just covering their arses to stop more revolutions popping out of the ground.

[I’m not Stu]

HP. KKK apologist. Silenced anti-WWI protesters. Did not follow through with the 14 Points.

[RINO Tom]

There is literally no reason for a conservative to like Woodrow Wilson.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

There is literally no reason for a conservative to like Woodrow Wilson.

Operation Polar Bear?

[darklordoftech]

HP. Segregationist, speech-suppressing warmonger. However, he did have some FF ideas that he was never able to enact and he appointed Louis Brandeis, an FF, to the Supreme Court.

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His first term was remarkably successfull in terms of getting legislations passed, but it's always overlooked due to his f**k-up of League of Nations ratification.

I suppose as a Pole I should feel some gratitude, but I can't consider him a good person.

No, the common perception is that world war 1 was a stupid war that was fought by Europe's masses for the benefit of stupid, aristocratic elites and their dumb war games. None of the postwar leaders were remotely interested in genuine reform, just covering their arses to stop more revolutions popping out of the ground.

"Nothing changed" is not completely accurate. The WWI brought freedom to many nations that were subjugated before by imperial powers, mine including. WWI changed a lot.

Joining the war per se was more in the U.S. interest than it's now fashionable to admit. We should make a distinction between post-war screwups like terms of Versailles and Wilson's failure of getting the Senate to ratify, and the war itself.

WWI was pretty much something that had to happen, one way or the other. Historical revisionism claiming all would be awesome if not for the WWI, or Entente victory, is quite shallow. Nazism, Fascism were not inevitable. Germans, military including, had no problem with quitting the war and cutting some loses, the main inflaming point to burst later, were handling of post-war order.

[vanguard96]

Federal Reserve Act, Income Tax, WWI, Wilsonian Interventionism.
Virulent racist
He is my least regarded president of all time.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

The Fourteen Points and the founding of the League of Nations was the most visionary policy ever pursued by any US President. For that reason alone I can't call him a HP.