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« on: June 11, 2017, 02:56:01 PM »

This is the thread for everyone to post interesting facts about presidential elections.

Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican to win the presidency and the second Republican nominated for president.

Herbert Hoover was the first president born west of the Mississippi River.

John F. Kennedy was the first Catholic to become president and the first president born in the twentieth century. He was also the second Catholic to be nominated president (Al Smith was the first).

Jimmy Carter was the first Democrat to win without winning New Mexico since it became a state.

Bill Clinton was the first Democrat to win without winning Texas. He was also the first Democrat to win both Georgia and Vermont in the same election. He's also the first baby boomer and first Arkansan (score one for flyover states) to become president.

George W. Bush was the last Republican to win New Hampshire (first time) and the first Republican to win without winning Illinois or Vermont. He was the first Republican to win without winning New Hampshire (second time). He was also the first nominee to win the presidency without winning a single state in the northeast (second time).

Barack Obama is the first Democrat to win without winning Missouri and of course, the first black president.

Donald Trump is the first Republican to win the presidency without winning New Hampshire the first time around and might become the first Republican president to have never won the state. He is also the first Republican to win Elliot County, Kentucky.

There hasn't been a Republican that has won the presidency without winning Ohio and yet there are Democrats that have won without winning Ohio.

Washington, D.C. has voted Democratic in every single presidential election since it first gained the right to vote in presidential elections.
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2017, 03:06:48 PM »

In 1928, to show his support for Prohibition, Democrat Al Smith ran under the slogan "Vote for Al Smith, he will make your wet dreams come true"
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2017, 03:39:05 PM »

Three major party candidates have failed to win a majority in even a single state: Taft 1912 (I believe his best showing was 37% in either UT or VT); Mondale 1984 (best showing 49.7% in MN); Bush 1992 (best showing 49.7% in MS).
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2017, 08:34:48 PM »

John McCain is the only 21st century Republican candidate to not have the highest margin in any state compared to Bush (both 2000 and 2004), Romney, and Trump.
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2017, 09:38:01 PM »
« Edited: June 11, 2017, 09:47:11 PM by L.D. Smith »

McGovern is the most recent Democrat from The West and was the last time until 2016 that The West overall trended leftwards of The East.

Nevada has been just as reliable as Ohio in determining the winner since 1912.

2016 was the first election since 1932 in which Pennsylvania and Minnesota voted to the right of the nation.

Trump is the first President to lose his home-state by double digits.

2012 was the first time since 1944 that the winner decreased both his Electoral and Popular count.



Jimmy Carter's election did not create ANY coattails in the Senate, in fact, incumbent Democrats actually lost more than they gained from vulnerable incumbent Republican. But this was saved by Democrats picking up more open seats from retiring Republicans than the reverse.

Jimmy Carter is also the first Democrat to win without Nevada since Grover Cleveland.

2004 was the first election Republicans won without a single Northeastern state, and if Ohio had gone to Kerry would've been the first time a Democrat won without The South.

2000 would've been the first time Democrats won with The South, if Al Gore had just picked Jeanne Shaheen to lock up New Hampshire.

1988 was the first time a Republican won without Iowa.
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2017, 10:18:16 PM »

McGovern is the most recent Democrat from The West and was the last time until 2016 that The West overall trended leftwards of The East.

Nevada has been just as reliable as Ohio in determining the winner since 1912.

2016 was the first election since 1932 in which Pennsylvania and Minnesota voted to the right of the nation.

Trump is the first President to lose his home-state by double digits.

2012 was the first time since 1944 that the winner decreased both his Electoral and Popular count.



Jimmy Carter's election did not create ANY coattails in the Senate, in fact, incumbent Democrats actually lost more than they gained from vulnerable incumbent Republican. But this was saved by Democrats picking up more open seats from retiring Republicans than the reverse.

Jimmy Carter is also the first Democrat to win without Nevada since Grover Cleveland.

2004 was the first election Republicans won without a single Northeastern state, and if Ohio had gone to Kerry would've been the first time a Democrat won without The South.

2000 would've been the first time Democrats won with The South, if Al Gore had just picked Jeanne Shaheen to lock up New Hampshire.

1988 was the first time a Republican won without Iowa.

Maryland and Delaware are southern states according to the United States federal government.
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2017, 11:39:50 PM »

Since 1912, there have been four presidential elections in which four candidates have each gotten at least 1% of the total popular vote.
In 1916, there were four candidates who each had at least 1%: Woodrow Wilson (49%), Charles Evans Hughes (46%), Allan Benson (3%), and Frank Hanley (1%).
In 1948, there were four candidates who each had at least 2%: Harry Truman (< 50%), Thomas Dewey (45%), Strom Thurmond (> 2%), and Henry Wallace (> 2%).
In 1980, the four candidates who each had at least 1% were: Jimmy Carter (41%), Ronald Reagan (< 51%), John Anderson (< 7%), and Ed Clark (1%).
In 2016, the four candidates who each had at least 1% were: Hillary Clinton (> 48%), Donald Trump (46%), Gary Johnson (> 3%), and Jill Stein (1%).

However, in 1912, there were five candidates who each ended up with at least 1%: Woodrow Wilson (< 42%), William Howard Taft (> 23%), Theodore Roosevelt (> 27%), Eugene Debs (6%), and Eugene Chafin (> 1%).
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2017, 04:05:49 PM »

1956 is the last time OK voted more Dem than the national average. 1956 is also the last time MA and NY voted more Republican than the national average.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2017, 10:30:37 PM »

The 1836 Presidential Election was the only presidential election in which a major party deliberately ran multiple candidates.

Aside from presidential elections before 1960, no Democrat has won the presidency without winning Hawaii.

Even in landslide elections, no candidate has won every county in New Mexico (it seems like one or two counties always slip away).
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2017, 01:12:56 PM »

Tennessee was more democratic than the nation in 1984.

Every election from 1952-1984 had at least a 5% median trend. No election since has more than 4.5%.

1996 was the last election Democrats would win the majority of votes cast in the south.

In 1892, Democrats got 0% of the vote in Colorado. In 1896, they got 85%, the single biggest shift in presidential election, better even than in much of the deep south. Not only that, but this was in the course of an election that went from a democratic three point win to a republican five.

The election of 1880 had the slimmest popular vote margin, a mere 1898 votes.

If slaves were not counted in apportioment, Adams would have won 1800 despite losing the popular vote by 22.8 points.
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2017, 11:33:22 PM »

In 1928, to show his support for Prohibition, Democrat Al Smith ran under the slogan "Vote for Al Smith, he will make your wet dreams come true"


Explains why they never came true...
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2017, 03:01:34 PM »

Tennessee was more democratic than the nation in 1984.

Every election from 1952-1984 had at least a 5% median trend. No election since has more than 4.5%.

1996 was the last election Democrats would win the majority of votes cast in the south.

In 1892, Democrats got 0% of the vote in Colorado. In 1896, they got 85%, the single biggest shift in presidential election, better even than in much of the deep south. Not only that, but this was in the course of an election that went from a democratic three point win to a republican five.

The election of 1880 had the slimmest popular vote margin, a mere 1898 votes.

If slaves were not counted in apportioment, Adams would have won 1800 despite losing the popular vote by 22.8 points.

The South got as many concessions as they did because slaves were counted towards the electoral vote and because of northern Democrats that were sympathetic towards the South.
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2017, 07:35:26 PM »

The county results in New Hampshire are exactly the same in 2000 and 2016. The percentages are all really similar too, except for Grafton County (47-46 D in 2000, 55-37 D in 2016).
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2017, 11:52:40 AM »

Except for Rutherford B. Hayes, no Republican has not won the presidency without winning Indiana.
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2017, 03:49:32 PM »

John McCain is the only Republican ever to lose every county in New Hampshire.
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2017, 12:05:07 PM »

2016 was the first time since 1928 that the GOP won the Presidency without Richard Nixon or a George Bush on the top or the bottom of the ticket.
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2017, 06:42:57 PM »



Right click and "open on a new tab" to be able to actually read it.

Source: https://xkcd.com/1122/
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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2017, 06:47:58 PM »

2016 was the first time since 1928 that the GOP won the Presidency without Richard Nixon or a George Bush on the top or the bottom of the ticket.
That is fascinating! In fact every GOP Presidential ticket from 1952 through 2004 (except 1964) had Nixon, a Bush, or Bob Dole on it.
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2017, 11:24:35 PM »

2016 was the first time since 1928 that the GOP won the Presidency without Richard Nixon or a George Bush on the top or the bottom of the ticket.

I thought of this the day after the election, but hadn't seen anyone point it out until now.
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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2017, 12:11:12 PM »

Richard Nixon was the first Republican to win every state in the South and Lyndon B. Johnson was the first Democrat to win every state in the Northeast.

The 1964 Presidential Election was the first one in which Georgia voted Republican and the first one in which Alaska and Vermont voted Democrat.
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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2017, 12:44:30 PM »
« Edited: July 18, 2017, 12:47:45 PM by MarkD »

The county results in New Hampshire are exactly the same in 2000 and 2016. The percentages are all really similar too, except for Grafton County (47-46 D in 2000, 55-37 D in 2016).

Wow! This IS interesting! Thanks or the info!

I've been calculating the NH results for both 2000 and 2016, and clearly without Grafton County, Hillary Clinton would not have won the state. It gave her the highest percentage. Grafton County voted for Al Gore by only 234 votes, but for Hillary Clinton by a whopping 9,500 votes!
If we subtract Grafton County from the results for the whole state, in 2000, Bush won by over 7,400 votes, a margin of 1.4%. In 2016, Trump won by almost 6,800, a margin of slightly less than 1% (the increase in the raw number of votes cast was over 30%). But because Grafton voted for Gore by a margin of less than 1% point in 2000 but voted for Clinton by a margin of over 18.5% points, the widest in the whole state, that was why Gore lost but Clinton won.
Eight of the counties voted almost exactly the same way in 2000 as they did in 2016, in terms of percentages. Besides Grafton County, the only other county in which there was a noticeable change in the vote margin was Carroll County, adjacent to Grafton in the northern half of  the state. Carroll County voted for Bush in 2000 by a margin of 11.5% points, but in 2016 it voted for Trump by only 5.5% points.
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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2017, 03:47:23 PM »

The fact that 49 out of 50 states voted for each party at least once between 1964 and 1980 is pretty incredible to think about today. In the same timespan of 2000 through 2016, only 13 states have voted for both parties.
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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2017, 06:40:31 PM »

The fact that 49 out of 50 states voted for each party at least once between 1964 and 1980 is pretty incredible to think about today. In the same timespan of 2000 through 2016, only 13 states have voted for both parties.
The former analysis holds even if only the 4 elections 1964, 1972, 1976, and 1980 are considered.

How about the fact that the GOP won a majority of the PV in 4 of the 5 elections 1972-1988, and in only 1 of the 7 elections since then (in fact, in only 1 have they even attained a plurality).
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2017, 08:08:36 AM »

McGovern is the most recent Democrat from The West and was the last time until 2016 that The West overall trended leftwards of The East.

Doesn't South Dakota belong to the Midwest?
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2017, 07:49:43 PM »
« Edited: July 30, 2017, 07:57:21 PM by mathstatman »

Since DC residents were granted the right to vote for President, 1968 is the only Presidential election in which one or more states gave a lower percentage of their vote to the GOP candidate than DC. (MS and AL).

Also, adjacent states MI and OH voted alike in just 4 of the 10 elections from 1940 through 1976. Since then, they have voted alike in 8 of 10.
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