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« on: June 12, 2017, 04:04:22 PM »

When you were in school (probably elementary school), what were the regions of the United States that you learned, and how do you personally see US regions?

These were the regions I learned in elementary school:

Northeast Southeast Midwest Southwest West

I see the U.S. regions as different depending on whether or not you're talking about geography or culturally. Except for New England, I don't think there are really concrete borders for any region.
Here is an attempt at geocultural regions:

R>90 New England
R>40 Middle Atlantic
R> 30 Appalachia
D>90 Deep South
D>40 Florida
D>30 Texas
I>90 Midwest
I>40 Plains
I>30 Mountain West
O>90 Pacific
O>40 Southwest
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2017, 04:47:44 PM »

North Carolina is not part of the deep south... North Carolina is nothing like the deep south at all...
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2017, 04:57:38 PM »

All I recall from my world geography class was my Wisconsinite born and raised teacher constantly bemoaning how backwards and stupid the South was.

I don't recall him subdividing the US into regions beyond that.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2017, 05:34:48 PM »

All I recall from my world geography class was my Wisconsinite born and raised teacher constantly bemoaning how backwards and stupid the South was.

I don't recall him subdividing the US into regions beyond that.

Probably because your teacher sounds like an idiot.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2017, 05:38:52 PM »

I used to have a placemat that had the regions of the United States. It's like the below map...


Northeast Southeast Midwest Southwest West

...except the Tri-State Area (PA, NJ, NY) formed their own Mid-Atlantic Area, Maryland and Deleware were part of the Southeast and the Pacific Coast states (plus Alaska and Hawaii) formed their own separate region.

I always thought Deleware and Maryland were closer to the Tri-State Area than to the South, which should also be split into two regions.
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2017, 09:12:16 PM »

I think we pretty much learned the Census regions ... but, as I previously posted one time, this is how I view them:

While we're on the subject, I think this is the most basic breakdown for me (I think that just because DC was such a crutial "breaking point" in the Civil War, I am fine with letting Maryland and Delaware shed their original Southern stock for Northeastern):



However, if we are going to divide by subregion, my map would look something like this:



THE NORTHEAST
Dark Red: New England
Red: Non-New England Northeast
Pink: More Mid-Atlantic

THE SOUTH
Dark Green: The Deep South
Green: Clearly Southern but significant differences from the Deep South
Light Green: Part of the geographic region that is the South, some culturally Southern areas, but a very significant population of people who would not identify as Southern

THE MIDWEST
Dark Blue: The core of the Midwest, Big Ten Country, etc.
Blue: The Plains, clearly Midwestern but different culturally than Big Ten Country (more of a Western influence)
Light Blue: Really just fits into the Midwest by default ... parts of it are Plains-ish (KC), parts are Midwestern (STL), parts are Southern

THE WEST
Dark Yellow: West Coast
Yellow: Southwest
Light Yellow: Mountain West
Gray: When you do subregions, Alaska and Hawaii really just deserve their own, LOL.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2017, 10:17:22 PM »





I assume I was taught something like the U. S. Census Bureau if I was taught it at all.

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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2017, 12:22:16 AM »

I was always taught the regions were "arbitrary." Just learned New England/MidAtlantic/South for colonial history times, and that the South usually means the confederate states, and was told the Midwest usually means the Great Lakes states, and where the plains and rockies and desert were for mountain states / plains states .desert states. West coast states are obvious.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2017, 09:13:50 AM »

I was taught that New Englanders were traitors and Southerners were patriots.
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2017, 09:17:09 AM »

Some states don't really fit into just one region. Florida is an example of this. Missouri and Texas, too. Probably California as well.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2017, 10:00:25 AM »

I was taught that New Englanders were traitors and Southerners were patriots.

Modern Southerners are largely patriots!  One generation of their ancestors were traitors, though.  Not sure why any Southerner who loves God and country would feel a shred of attachment to those treasonous bastards when the modern South is 1,000 times better than the sh**thole and dysfunctional "society" that seceded.
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2017, 02:44:02 PM »

I think we pretty much learned the Census regions ... but, as I previously posted one time, this is how I view them:

While we're on the subject, I think this is the most basic breakdown for me (I think that just because DC was such a crutial "breaking point" in the Civil War, I am fine with letting Maryland and Delaware shed their original Southern stock for Northeastern):



This, I think, is the correct map.
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2017, 03:11:43 PM »

As I learned 'em roughly give or take Texas and Oklahoma, which could be Southern or Southwestern:



Red: The West Coast
Pink: Alaska and Hawaii
Tan: The Southwest
Gray: Flyover Country
Blue: The Midwest
Yellow: The South
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2017, 03:43:10 PM »

What makes Indiana Southern?
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2017, 03:44:19 PM »

I never learned US regions in school, apart from the order in which various areas were added to the Union. This is probably the closest I could come to describing the states "as I learned them in school." Lighter color signify half-gray



Alaska and Hawaii
Former Oregon Territory/Cascadia
States that used to be Spanish/Mexican
That place with its own religion
Louisiana Purchase/Lewis and Clark states
Old States on the "right" side of the Civil War
Old States on the "wrong" side of the Civil War
The states responsible for George Bush (combination blue+orange)

The states as I see them:



Washington
The North
The South
The East
The West
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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2017, 05:06:11 PM »


It voted for Bush in '00 by a long shot, isn't desert-y enough to be The Southwest, and on the wrong side of the Midwest to be Flyover Country.
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2017, 07:40:46 PM »


It voted for Bush in '00 by a long shot, isn't desert-y enough to be The Southwest, and on the wrong side of the Midwest to be Flyover Country.


How does that make any sense? Indiana is just as midwestern as Ohio. Both very rural with a couple big cities, strong union presence, part of the old rust belt, etc. And if you're bringing politics into this, by trends, Indiana is pretty much in lock-step with the rest of the region. We even went to Obama in '08.
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2017, 08:14:54 PM »



You think Pennsylvania is Midwestern? Some parts of western PA have a strong MidWest flavor, but the whole state definitely is not.

I assume I was taught something like the U. S. Census Bureau if I was taught it at all.


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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2017, 11:49:17 AM »

My personal US regions



Regions


Northeast

South

Midwest


West


My personal US subregions




Subregions

Northeastern

Dark red: New England
Pink: Mid-Atlantic

Southern

Dark blue: Deep South
Light blue: Upper South

Midwestern

Dark green: Upper Midwest
Turquoise: Great Plains

Western

Gold: Pacific
Tan: Mountain States


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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2017, 11:53:21 AM »


Though Southern Missouri, Illinois and Indiana are all culturally Southern (IMO), there is no way in hell that the state of Indiana is part of the South.  It might have a few more Southern influences (even my sister living in Indianapolis says it is noticably more influenced by the South than Iowa), but it's clearly a Midwestern state.
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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2017, 12:28:23 PM »

This is what I learned in school:



Red = Smart, enlightened people (good USA)
Blue = Dumb far-right rednecks (bad USA)
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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2017, 02:25:06 PM »



Democratic 279 A secular map
GOP 259
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« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2017, 02:32:36 PM »



Democratic 279 A secular map
GOP 259

Was your teacher of the OC family?
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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2017, 02:41:23 PM »


Though Southern Missouri, Illinois and Indiana are all culturally Southern (IMO), there is no way in hell that the state of Indiana is part of the South.  It might have a few more Southern influences (even my sister living in Indianapolis says it is noticably more influenced by the South than Iowa), but it's clearly a Midwestern state.

People need to remember that the Midwest really is the bastard child between New England, Mid-Atlantic and the Upper South.
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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2017, 02:41:32 PM »


Though Southern Missouri, Illinois and Indiana are all culturally Southern (IMO), there is no way in hell that the state of Indiana is part of the South.  It might have a few more Southern influences (even my sister living in Indianapolis says it is noticably more influenced by the South than Iowa), but it's clearly a Midwestern state.

This may sound crazy, but there are people who think that Wisconsin has more in common with the South politically and even culturally than with the rest of the Midwest. There might be a grain of truth to this claim, but it's obviously an exaggeration.
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