WaPo: James T. Hodgkinson was shooter

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

absolutely. Imagine someone encouraged second amendment people to take care of political opponents. That would be disastrous in a democracy. Imagine a political candidate encouraged dissenters to be violently tossed from their "rallies"! That would be a gross violation of the freedom of the people. Imagine one chanted "Lock Her Up" about a political opponent! Thank God we live in a free country where the good people wouldn't stand for such actions.

He said mean things so lets shoot them guyz!!!1!!!

Jesus Christ dude.

He's saying that politicians advocating violence against their opponents is horrible. And he's right, it is.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Fox is reporting Hodgkinson is dead.......man that's going to make the investigation longer and far more broad than before.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

The guy is a Bernie supporter... https://www.facebook.com/jthodgkinson?fref=ts

And FB just took his page offline.

[Confused Democrat]

Fox is reporting Hodgkinson is dead.......man that's going to make the investigation longer and far more broad than before.

Trump confirmed this at 11:30 in his speech.

[Middle-aged Europe]

No idea if there's any connection but there was just a mass shooting in SF. Two confirmed dead.

Yes, today is the day when the 60+ year old Berniebros are trying to overthrow the government.

[elcorazon]

It's Flag Day!

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Fox is reporting Hodgkinson is dead.......man that's going to make the investigation longer and far more broad than before.

Trump confirmed this at 11:30 in his speech.

I didn't get to watch a replay of it.......thanks

[Mr. Reactionary]

The shooters house sure looks nice. Nicer than mine. Shame that he threw it all away for an act of primal hatred preemptive self defense against nazi fascists.

[publicunofficial]

Also remember: Mass shootings and hate crimes are all false flag fake news EXCEPT if a bullet hits a Republican.

[Illiniwek]

absolutely. Imagine someone encouraged second amendment people to take care of political opponents. That would be disastrous in a democracy. Imagine a political candidate encouraged dissenters to be violently tossed from their "rallies"! That would be a gross violation of the freedom of the people. Imagine one chanted "Lock Her Up" about a political opponent! Thank God we live in a free country where the good people wouldn't stand for such actions.

He said mean things so lets shoot them guyz!!!1!!!

Jesus Christ dude.

He's saying that politicians advocating violence against their opponents is horrible. And he's right, it is.

This is especially responsive to those on the right saying "they need to tone it down on the left, because when Bernie advocates 'a revolution,' this is what happens." No sane person perceives "revolution" as one where blood is to be spilled, and trump has said way more violent things than "we need a revolution." So don't come here with garbage that blames Bernie's language.

Crazy nutcase was a crazy nutcase and we should just be glad that no victim died.

[pbrower2a]

Unthinkable and inexcusable. Understandable in the sense that a robbery of a liquor store or gas station is understandable.

[Hammy]

absolutely. Imagine someone encouraged second amendment people to take care of political opponents. That would be disastrous in a democracy. Imagine a political candidate encouraged dissenters to be violently tossed from their "rallies"! That would be a gross violation of the freedom of the people. Imagine one chanted "Lock Her Up" about a political opponent! Thank God we live in a free country where the good people wouldn't stand for such actions.

He said mean things so lets shoot them guyz!!!1!!!

Jesus Christ dude.

He's saying that politicians advocating violence against their opponents is horrible. And he's right, it is.

This is especially responsive to those on the right saying "they need to tone it down on the left, because when Bernie advocates 'a revolution,' this is what happens." No sane person perceives "revolution" as one where blood is to be spilled, and trump has said way more violent things than "we need a revolution." So don't come here with garbage that blames Bernie's language.

Crazy nutcase was a crazy nutcase and we should just be glad that no victim died.

One could make the same argument with the right wing rhetoric. The fact remains that nothing that could even be perceived as violent rhetoric should be coming from anybody running for office, regardless of what side they're on.

[Classic Conservative]

Scalise now in critical condition.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MedStarWHC/status/875057648735051777

[kyc0705]

Scalise now in critical condition.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MedStarWHC/status/875057648735051777

He was previously described as being "stable," which is unhelpful term to describe a patient's condition because there is no set definition. It makes sense that anyone who was shot less than twelve hours ago would be referred to as "critical," even if their prognosis is good.

In any case, I wish him and his family all the best.

[America Needs R'hllor]

Scalise now in critical condition.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MedStarWHC/status/875057648735051777

God, I thought it wasn't that bad. Hope he'll recover.

[Crumpets]

It seems odd that the primary victim of this apparently random "I'm going to find some Republican Congressmen and shoot them" attack was Steve Scalise, one of the most powerful and divisive Republicans in Congress.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

absolutely. Imagine someone encouraged second amendment people to take care of political opponents. That would be disastrous in a democracy. Imagine a political candidate encouraged dissenters to be violently tossed from their "rallies"! That would be a gross violation of the freedom of the people. Imagine one chanted "Lock Her Up" about a political opponent! Thank God we live in a free country where the good people wouldn't stand for such actions.

He said mean things so lets shoot them guyz!!!1!!!

Jesus Christ dude.

He's saying that politicians advocating violence against their opponents is horrible. And he's right, it is.

This is especially responsive to those on the right saying "they need to tone it down on the left, because when Bernie advocates 'a revolution,' this is what happens." No sane person perceives "revolution" as one where blood is to be spilled, and trump has said way more violent things than "we need a revolution." So don't come here with garbage that blames Bernie's language.

Crazy nutcase was a crazy nutcase and we should just be glad that no victim died.

One could make the same argument with the right wing rhetoric. The fact remains that nothing that could even be perceived as violent rhetoric should be coming from anybody running for office, regardless of what side they're on.

Let's not make a false equivalency though. Calls for revolution - a core idea of American politics going back to the Founders, and not directly associated with violence for a century or more - are very different from open calls for using firearms to murder public officials. And only one party has its elected representatives doing the latter.

[Santander]

It seems odd that the primary victim of this apparently random "I'm going to find some Republican Congressmen and shoot them" attack was Steve Scalise, one of the most powerful and divisive Republicans in Congress.

How is Steve Scalise divisive?

The "David Duke without the baggage" comment was unfortunate, but it's taken out of context to imply that he shares David Duke's white separatist views but doesn't have the KKK baggage. He meant that he shares much of David Duke's policy agenda (not ideology) from his 90s campaigns, which have become mainstream in the GOP post-Duke.

[Xing]

Clearly it's only liberals who politicize tragedies

Anyway, this is horrible, and while it's normal to be disgusted by Trump, that's no justification for violence like this.

[Santander]

Bernie did promise revolution. This is what happens.

Edited.

Thank you.

[Brittain33]

Scalise now in critical condition.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MedStarWHC/status/875057648735051777

God, I thought it wasn't that bad. Hope he'll recover.

That's really horrible. Very unwelcome news. I hope he pulls through and has a good recovery.

[ProudModerate2]

Scalise now in critical condition.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MedStarWHC/status/875057648735051777

God, I thought it wasn't that bad. Hope he'll recover.

That's really horrible. Very unwelcome news. I hope he pulls through and has a good recovery.

It's true that he was initially diagnosed at "stable," but through/after the surgery (I believe he was shot in the hip), his current status is "critical."
Hope all is well.

[Brittain33]

From an old article on Slate (2009):

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[kyc0705]

Scalise now in critical condition.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MedStarWHC/status/875057648735051777

God, I thought it wasn't that bad. Hope he'll recover.

That's really horrible. Very unwelcome news. I hope he pulls through and has a good recovery.

It's true that he was initially diagnosed at "stable," but through/after the surgery (I believe he was shot in the hip), his current status is "critical."
Hope all is well.

Like I said on the last page, "stable" is a very unhelpful term. It could mean anything. "Critical" is more specific, and is a more probable word for a hospital to use when describing a patient who was shot very recently.

[Hammy]

absolutely. Imagine someone encouraged second amendment people to take care of political opponents. That would be disastrous in a democracy. Imagine a political candidate encouraged dissenters to be violently tossed from their "rallies"! That would be a gross violation of the freedom of the people. Imagine one chanted "Lock Her Up" about a political opponent! Thank God we live in a free country where the good people wouldn't stand for such actions.

He said mean things so lets shoot them guyz!!!1!!!

Jesus Christ dude.

He's saying that politicians advocating violence against their opponents is horrible. And he's right, it is.

This is especially responsive to those on the right saying "they need to tone it down on the left, because when Bernie advocates 'a revolution,' this is what happens." No sane person perceives "revolution" as one where blood is to be spilled, and trump has said way more violent things than "we need a revolution." So don't come here with garbage that blames Bernie's language.

Crazy nutcase was a crazy nutcase and we should just be glad that no victim died.

One could make the same argument with the right wing rhetoric. The fact remains that nothing that could even be perceived as violent rhetoric should be coming from anybody running for office, regardless of what side they're on.

Let's not make a false equivalency though. Calls for revolution - a core idea of American politics going back to the Founders, and not directly associated with violence for a century or more - are very different from open calls for using firearms to murder public officials. And only one party has its elected representatives doing the latter.

There's no false equivalency here at all--the nation was founded on violent revolution, so if you're going to use the argument of this is what the country was founded on, then you're essentially condoning the violence itself as well.