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« on: June 15, 2017, 11:23:42 PM »

Discuss?
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2017, 11:27:09 PM »

George W. Bush tried to appeal to them ( he won 40% of them in 2004), so they can take from his playbook and improve his strategy for appealing to them.
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2017, 12:51:34 AM »

There is not much that they can do aside from addressing issues in the Latino community and taking a hard stance against xenophobia.

I'm tempted to say that the ship is sailing or has sailed away.
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2017, 09:33:45 AM »

George W. Bush tried to appeal to them ( he won 40% of them in 2004), so they can take from his playbook and improve his strategy for appealing to them.

So, nominate Jeb! ? He would win in a landslide after all Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2017, 08:45:46 PM »

George W. Bush tried to appeal to them ( he won 40% of them in 2004), so they can take from his playbook and improve his strategy for appealing to them.

So, nominate Jeb! ? He would win in a landslide after all Tongue

Jeb!'s ship has sailed.
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2017, 08:31:31 AM »

I think the key for Latino support lies in Marco Rubio. He was the most approved among the GOP field in 2016 by Hispanics.
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2017, 10:48:00 AM »

The conventional wisdom for what the Republicans need to do to attract Latinos is almost all wrong. Sure, they need to nominate someone who isn't openly antagonistic toward Latinos, but even that's not the main problem. The main problem is that the Republicans need to move toward the center on economics. The path of least resistance to attracting more Latino votes is more or less the same path they need to take in order to attract more working class white votes. To understand this, consider what the Republicans need not to do: they need to stop trying to gut healthcare in order to cut taxes for investment bankers. The media wisdom is perpetually biased in favor of upscale voters. There's a reason why the party of Mitt Romney bombed as badly as it did among Hispanics, and it has a lot more to do with economics than immigration and racial tension.
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2017, 11:04:07 AM »

If Trump were to actually pass a bill granting legal status to the undocumented, that would help a lot.
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2017, 11:16:40 AM »

The 2020 ticket will have another minority on it; with Booker or a Latino Veep.  Trump is dismantling socialized medicine that alot of welfare recipients like Latinos face up to.  Its not just granting undocument workers legal status.

But, he's gonna face a multi racial ticket in 2020 anyways.
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2017, 11:45:26 AM »

"How will Republicans try appeal to Latinos (if they do not their party is dead)? "

No if Latinos don't vote republican then our country is dead
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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2017, 11:51:18 AM »

The conventional wisdom for what the Republicans need to do to attract Latinos is almost all wrong. Sure, they need to nominate someone who isn't openly antagonistic toward Latinos, but even that's not the main problem. The main problem is that the Republicans need to move toward the center on economics. The path of least resistance to attracting more Latino votes is more or less the same path they need to take in order to attract more working class white votes. To understand this, consider what the Republicans need not to do: they need to stop trying to gut healthcare in order to cut taxes for investment bankers. The media wisdom is perpetually biased in favor of upscale voters. There's a reason why the party of Mitt Romney bombed as badly as it did among Hispanics, and it has a lot more to do with economics than immigration and racial tension.
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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2017, 12:44:38 PM »

I think the key for Latino support lies in Marco Rubio. He was the most approved among the GOP field in 2016 by Hispanics.

Nominate Marco Rubio.
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2017, 12:50:25 PM »

I think the key for Latino support lies in Marco Rubio. He was the most approved among the GOP field in 2016 by Hispanics.

Nominate Marco Rubio.

Who lost Latinos in his senate race.
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2017, 12:52:23 PM »

they need to stop trying to gut healthcare in order to cut taxes for investment bankers.

That has literally been their goal for decades, though. This is who they are.
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2017, 01:00:56 PM »

I think the key for Latino support lies in Marco Rubio. He was the most approved among the GOP field in 2016 by Hispanics.

Nominate Marco Rubio.

Who lost Latinos in his senate race.

As Reagan said, " There you go again. "

Rubio won Florida by winning 48 % of the Latino vote, which is clearly better than Mitt Romney who won only 39 % of this same groupe in Florida in 2012.
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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2017, 01:23:33 PM »

I think the key for Latino support lies in Marco Rubio. He was the most approved among the GOP field in 2016 by Hispanics.

Nominate Marco Rubio.

Who lost Latinos in his senate race.

As Reagan said, " There you go again. "

Rubio won Florida by winning 48 % of the Latino vote, which is clearly better than Mitt Romney who won only 39 % of this same groupe in Florida in 2012.

Reagan made his 'there you go again' statement in reference to a claim by Carter that Reagan wanted to privatize social security. Reagan was actually a moderate who defended social security, and didn't want cuts to the program.

Mel Martinez won 60% of Latinos in FL in 2004.
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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2017, 02:30:11 PM »

oh the old liberal mantra "you can't win without latinos, your party is dead". gop have more latino votes than you think, and you better look in your own yard. because if dems continue with clintonism, they will never ever win.
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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2017, 03:11:06 PM »

oh the old liberal mantra "you can't win without latinos, your party is dead". gop have more latino votes than you think, and you better look in your own yard. because if dems continue with clintonism, they will never ever win.

Trump asked Rubio to run for reelection in FL which sealed the deal in the election, in 2016, because FL was critical in that election.

The GOP since the Russia probe, can't run of compassionate conservatism anymore, and people like Ted Cruz are unpopular as ever.
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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2017, 04:21:01 PM »

Same way they appealed to Catholics after 1960.
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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2017, 04:24:40 PM »

I mean, the GOP didn't really appeal to Latino's much anyway in 2016, and they won. Not only did they win, they're the strongest they've been since the 1920's, electorally. Furthermore, with them targeting the demographics that they are, they really don't need too much of the Latino vote to be electorally viable anymore.
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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2017, 05:11:23 PM »

The GOP will probably continue to tout their opposition to abortion and their support of allowing faith-based (Catholic) charities like the Little Sisters of the Poor to operate relatively unfettered.

This, and their continued support of a (relatively) free market, should appeal to many Latinos.
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« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2017, 05:49:01 PM »

Millennial Hispanics are the Republican generation of their subset - in contrast with every other racial group. So the correct answer is "wait patiently" because it's already coming.
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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2017, 10:35:29 PM »
« Edited: June 17, 2017, 10:39:38 PM by TD »

Median household Latino wealth is like $7,000. Median household white wealth is like $110k. As long as these numbers stay apart, Latinos will vote Democratic at considerable margins let alone the Trumpian need to demonize them nonstop, which led to one of the biggest Democratic victories among this group (which was 55-44% Democratic in 2004 for POTUS; in 2016, it was about 66-28% for POTUS; 67-32% for the House).

Currently, we'd need to do a massive economic program to lift up these Latinos from the lower working class to the middle class. It will happen anyway but right now, Latinos are not really nearing the middle class in terms of wealth accumulation or anywhere near the levels whites are. As a consequence, to survive, they view themselves needing the benefits and Democratic Party's benefits based ideology rather than the GOP's free market ideology (which is more applicable to more relatively upscale voters).

Economics and cultural intransigence by the GOP is a big reason why Latinos won't vote Republican for quite a while to come.

To wit, that avowedly leftist paragon, Forbes:

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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2017, 11:01:32 PM »

I didn't think I would someday wholeheartedly agree on an socioeconomic subject with someone who has a Constitution Party avatar, but here I am.
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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2017, 05:07:20 PM »

Same way they appealed to Catholics after 1960.

Stupid answer.

Catholics had greater median household wealth most likely and were on an economic parity with Protestants by 1960, or almost were at parity. Their integration and economic mobility was not in question. Latinos, on the other hand, are extremely economically disadvantaged, which presents a huge problem to the GOP, who represent the upper middle class and the rich. We can tell because Catholics were pretty prominent in American politics and were voting Republican by 1980. They also had been in the United States in significant waves since the 1880s.

Latinos are not gonna shift without accruing a lot of economic assets that allow them to be comfortable enough to vote on social issues or vote economically conservative. It's also one reason African Americans remain Democratic.

The fastest growing demographic voting blocs in the United States are also the poorest, not the richest. Which presages a Democratic edge, not a Republican one. 
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