How will republicans try to appeal to black voters in the future?

[Bidenworth2020]

Discuss

[The Arizonan]

They will make promises to overhaul the criminal justice system. Whether or not they actually keep their promises is anyone's guess.

[BaldEagle1991]

Well for one, they can't give up the "redneck" base which seems to vote AGAINST whoever blacks vote in en masse. So for them to appeal to black voters they'll be risking a lot.

They can appeal by appealing to be more in tune with the black community on religious rights issues. Blacks on average are less likely to be supportive of LGBT rights and are more in favor of those "bathroom bills" popping up across the country.

[Coolface Sock #42069]

Honestly, they probably won't. Which is a shame, because I definitely believe there are black people who would vote GOP if they got rid of the white identity politics, etc.

[Stranger in a strange land]

Condescension in the form of "what have you got to lose" type appeals and trotting out has-been entertainers.

[Santander]

Both parties make condescending approaches to the black community.

The Democrats tell them that the other side is essentially trying to "put them back in chains", believing that they can maintain the vote based on fear, which has worked for them until this point. They go on and on about criminal justice reform, voter ID laws, welfare programs, etc., as if every black person is a criminal who is too poor to get a $20 state ID card. Cities burn and crumble on their watch, but as long as the other side doesn't provide as compelling alternative, there is no reason for blacks to switch sides.

Republicans have also begun talking about criminal justice reform and the racial outcome of the War on Drugs, which are, while probably subjects most blacks are sympathetic to, are not the immediate concerns to the law-abiding black middle-class and other individualistic "strivers" who the GOP could realistically win over. The politicians have to actually go there and not be completely tone-deaf or pretend that racism doesn't exist. It's always going to be a hard sell, trying to sell the ideals of the founders, who were all white men, many whom were slaveholders, to blacks, but you have to try.

[The Arizonan]

Both parties make condescending approaches to the black community.

The Democrats tell them that the other side is essentially trying to "put them back in chains", believing that they can maintain the vote based on fear, which has worked for them until this point. They go on and on about criminal justice reform, voter ID laws, welfare programs, etc., as if every black person is a criminal who is too poor to get a $20 state ID card. Cities burn and crumble on their watch, but as long as the other side doesn't provide as compelling alternative, there is no reason for blacks to switch sides.

Republicans have also begun talking about criminal justice reform and the racial outcome of the War on Drugs, which are, while probably subjects most blacks are sympathetic to, are not the immediate concerns to the law-abiding black middle-class and other individualistic "strivers" who the GOP could realistically win over. The politicians have to actually go there and not be completely tone-deaf or pretend that racism doesn't exist. It's always going to be a hard sell, trying to sell the ideals of the founders, who were all white men, many whom were slaveholders, to blacks, but you have to try.

Do you realize that getting an ID card can be a pain in the ass and expensive? We do need criminal justice reform because criminals get unreasonable sentences for mere possession of drugs and some crimes are classified as felonies when they should be misdemeanors.

[Santander]

Do you realize that getting an ID card can be a pain in the ass and expensive? We do need criminal justice reform because criminals get unreasonable sentences for mere possession of drugs and some crimes are classified as felonies when they should be misdemeanors.

Republicans just aren't going to win the poor black vote. They could conceivably make progress with the middle-class black vote with the right message and messengers. I also said that criminal justice reform is a subject that most blacks are at least sympathetic to, so it would be a good thing for the GOP to try to own the issue.

Republicans can't make progress with any minorities by obsessing about race. It looks artificial, and people who could be persuaded to vote Republican generally don't consider themselves to be a hyphenated American. It's like when Colin Powell told Bill O'Reilly, "Why do you only see me as an African-American?"

[TheSaint250]

Both parties make condescending approaches to the black community.

The Democrats tell them that the other side is essentially trying to "put them back in chains", believing that they can maintain the vote based on fear, which has worked for them until this point. They go on and on about criminal justice reform, voter ID laws, welfare programs, etc., as if every black person is a criminal who is too poor to get a $20 state ID card. Cities burn and crumble on their watch, but as long as the other side doesn't provide as compelling alternative, there is no reason for blacks to switch sides.

Republicans have also begun talking about criminal justice reform and the racial outcome of the War on Drugs, which are, while probably subjects most blacks are sympathetic to, are not the immediate concerns to the law-abiding black middle-class and other individualistic "strivers" who the GOP could realistically win over. The politicians have to actually go there and not be completely tone-deaf or pretend that racism doesn't exist. It's always going to be a hard sell, trying to sell the ideals of the founders, who were all white men, many whom were slaveholders, to blacks, but you have to try.

Do you realize that getting an ID card can be a pain in the ass and expensive? We do need criminal justice reform because criminals get unreasonable sentences for mere possession of drugs and some crimes are classified as felonies when they should be misdemeanors.

I think ID cards would be good if free when registering.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

They swift boated John Kerry in 2004 and 2016 they wikileaked Clinton on her emails, and declare that elections are on a different date than what it usually is.  All voter supression techniques used to suppress turnout. 

And the GOP hasn't reached out to any women candidates, even conservative ones on SCOTUS(Alito and Gorsech are the most conservative ones)

They have a long way to go on this issue.

[The Chill Moderate Republican]

That is honestly very difficult. The democrats have succeeded in saying that the republican party is racist and doesn't care about the black community. On the other hand, aren't blacks one of the major groups that get government welfare and that is a group of people (including blacks) to be heavily democratic.

[RINO Tom]

That is honestly very difficult. The democrats have succeeded in saying that the republican party is racist and doesn't care about the black community. On the other hand, aren't blacks one of the major groups that get government welfare and that is a group of people (including blacks) to be heavily democratic.

Yes, and the GOP either needs to repair the first image problem (being racist) or the second (being hostile to increased welfare/government intervention of the economy) or not win any more Black voters.  While I think neither is likely in the short term, I think changing the first is much more likely in the long term.  In 40 to 50 years, I'd think the GOP would at least be winning a slightly higher share of affluent minorities (and by extension, probably Blacks) than they do now ... after all, minorities with higher incomes and more education are more Republican, right now, than the rest (though they're still very Democratic).

[DPKdebator]

Both parties make condescending approaches to the black community.

The Democrats tell them that the other side is essentially trying to "put them back in chains", believing that they can maintain the vote based on fear, which has worked for them until this point. They go on and on about criminal justice reform, voter ID laws, welfare programs, etc., as if every black person is a criminal who is too poor to get a $20 state ID card. Cities burn and crumble on their watch, but as long as the other side doesn't provide as compelling alternative, there is no reason for blacks to switch sides.

Republicans have also begun talking about criminal justice reform and the racial outcome of the War on Drugs, which are, while probably subjects most blacks are sympathetic to, are not the immediate concerns to the law-abiding black middle-class and other individualistic "strivers" who the GOP could realistically win over. The politicians have to actually go there and not be completely tone-deaf or pretend that racism doesn't exist. It's always going to be a hard sell, trying to sell the ideals of the founders, who were all white men, many whom were slaveholders, to blacks, but you have to try.

Do you realize that getting an ID card can be a pain in the ass and expensive? We do need criminal justice reform because criminals get unreasonable sentences for mere possession of drugs and some crimes are classified as felonies when they should be misdemeanors.

I think ID cards would be good if free when registering.

This would generally destroy the whole "voter ID is voter suppression since it would be hard to obtain" thing. Americans are used to having to show IDs for lots of things, so how would showing a card or some form of documentation hurt? It's the norm in the rest of the world; my grandmother in Northern Ireland has to show her passport when she votes.

[#gravelgang #lessiglad]

This question is probably better suited to the general board or the demographics board.

[The_Doctor]

African American voters won't make any meaningful political shifts until their economic conditions shift and the Southern Strategy is formally abandoned by the Republican Party. PG County, MD is a good example of a potentially Republican friendly county if the GOP wasn't so intent on institutionalizing their driving up the white vote at all costs.

[Famous Mortimer]

Probably nothing but the downward economic trajectory of normie White people will eventually cause Black people to become RELATIVELY middle class and at that point at least some of them will start voting Republican.

[Coolface Sock #42069]

African American voters won't make any meaningful political shifts until their economic conditions shift and the Southern Strategy is formally abandoned by the Republican Party. PG County, MD is a good example of a potentially Republican friendly county if the GOP wasn't so intent on institutionalizing their driving up the white vote at all costs.

Nah, probably not. Most of the people in that county and others around the D.C. beltway either directly or indirectly depend on government spending for a living and won't want to see that cut. That's a big part of why I thought Pennsylvania would be easier for Republicans to win in 2016 than Virginia.

[daveosupremo]

Criminal justice and prison reform, including supporting body cams for police officers, decriminalization of marijuana and commutation or even pardoning of non violent drug offenders currently in prison. This is simply good policy, but would send a massive olive branch to the black community, as they are disproportionately represented in prisons for minor drug offenses. If we let them out of jail, and clear their records, they'll be eligible for all kinds of jobs that they don't have access to due to criminal backgrounds.

Also education reform. Vouchers and charter schools help poor minority families more than any other group in this country, but they haven't been effectively sold to these communities. Further, providing affordable or free training for trades would be very beneficial to undereducated older minority people who are too old to go to a four year program.