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« on: June 16, 2017, 06:14:18 PM »
« edited: June 16, 2017, 06:17:26 PM by Plankton5165 »

No Republican has ever won the White House without Ohio, it has the longest streak in voting for a president, it hasn't voted for a loser in now 60 years. No Republican has won the White House without Arizona either. Trump won Ohio by nearly 10 points, he won Arizona by 4. Ohio's EVs are coming down, Arizona's is going up. In the 2040s, 30 years from now, they'll probably have the same-15 electoral votes. Who was popular 30 years ago? Madonna? Kim Wilde? There was barely any Internet for you guys.

I don't wanna go there now, let's appreciate the 2010s when it's there now, and when it is the 2020s, let's appreciate the 2020s. A decade is a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very long time. The more you go ahead in time, the scarier it is.
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2017, 06:27:01 PM »

It might be somewhat of a bellwether in the 2020s, but eventually it'll be a lot like New Mexico, where the Republican isn't totally blown out but just can't win.
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2017, 08:14:37 PM »

No. It may abandon the GOP by the 2040s but it won't be a swing state.
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2017, 11:34:48 PM »

I imagine Arizona in the future being what New Mexico was in 1992.
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2017, 07:06:02 AM »

I can see NC being the new OH...
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2017, 10:35:45 AM »

I think Florida is the new bellwether
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2017, 01:45:07 PM »

I think Florida is the new bellwether
Except for 1992, Florida's voted for the winner in every election since 1964.
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2017, 01:52:11 PM »
« Edited: June 17, 2017, 01:54:38 PM by Southern Delegate TimTurner »

A good chunk of the R vote in AZ comes from seniors, olds, retirees etc, and a good chunk of the D vote in AZ comes from young people, especially the young Latino population. This means that unless you see still more like-minded elderly come in the state in relative terms, Dems stand to gain as these seniors die off.
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2017, 06:27:51 PM »

Nevada's the Ohio now. Same reliability rate in the last 100 years. The margin was the exact same, and the numbers were virtually identical to the national popular vote.



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