Who is more deserving of a permaban?

[Virginiá]

The thing I personally find interesting about jfern is the things he says - too many money was spent on GA-6, the establishment sucks, corporate this and that, I agree with a lot of it, but the arguments he uses are ridiculous. He doesn't know how to debate. He uses a ton of false equivalencies, straw men, and completely invalid arguments. He also never listens to anyone. A lot of people on Atlas seem to digest some things they debate on this forum, but not jfern. He's extremely stubborn, and that can be very frustrating. It means you often end up arguing in circles with him, and he is completely unfazed by it.

He is also too narrowly focused, and mostly on infighting. There is a reason he practically had a "but Hillary' meme in 2016. It's because no matter what, he brought up "..but Hillary [did this]" in practically every thread he posted in, no matter what the topic was about. He still does that, albeit to a lesser degree, and with other things.