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« Reply #950 on: June 20, 2017, 09:52:09 PM »

The GA-6 result tonight shows that the reluctant trump voter is still willing to give him a shot, even though they are saying they disapprove of him in . It also shows that dems need to do some massive lesson learning if they are to win back the house in '18.

2018 house rating: Lean R ---> Strong Lean R
Utterly delusional. Double digit swings in every special election, a president with a <40 approval rating. Everything points to a Dem wave
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« Reply #951 on: June 20, 2017, 09:52:18 PM »

Does anyone think that a Sanders clone would have won either of these races? Be honest.
Woulda done much worse
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« Reply #952 on: June 20, 2017, 09:52:42 PM »

Does anyone think that a Sanders clone would have won either of these races? Be honest.

No.
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« Reply #953 on: June 20, 2017, 09:52:56 PM »

Ossoff couldn't even match his percentage in the 1st round. Sad!

There was a poll where half of Republican Iowa caucus goers supported single payer. Why should Democrats take a position to the right of most Americans on healthcare?

Iowa is different from GA-06.

Iowa is alot more open to government subsidize. GA-06 is dominated by well-off white people. Talking about single payer isn't going to win these people over.
Well, Berniecrats aren't the ones who said to put all the resources into winning districts like GA-06.

Democrats didn't.

Alot of Ossoff's cash came from small donations.
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« Reply #954 on: June 20, 2017, 09:53:13 PM »

Does anyone think that a Sanders clone would have won either of these races? Be honest.

No.
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« Reply #955 on: June 20, 2017, 09:53:18 PM »

I hope this 2017 is to 2018 as 2009 was to 2010. But I doubt it.
Democrats are in fact doing far better than the GOP was in 2009. The GOP lost a seat to the dems  in 2009
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« Reply #956 on: June 20, 2017, 09:53:25 PM »

The GA-6 result tonight shows that the reluctant trump voter is still willing to give him a shot, even though they are saying they disapprove of him in . It also shows that dems need to do some massive lesson learning if they are to win back the house in '18.

2018 house rating: Lean R ---> Strong Lean R
Utterly delusional. Double digit swings in every special election, a president with a <40 approval rating. Everything points to a Dem wave

Everything supposedly pointed to one last year too, and we all saw what happened.
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« Reply #957 on: June 20, 2017, 09:53:45 PM »

Scott, you're smart enough to realize that Quist and Thompson getting the boatloads of money Ossoff got would've been negatives for their campaigns.

God, you lot make me want to pull my hair out.

THE VOTERS DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT FUNDRAISING. You think voters would care at all if they found out the GOP outspent the Dems in every single race so far in 2017?
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« Reply #958 on: June 20, 2017, 09:53:53 PM »

I really think Dems could've done better running a Bullock-style MT Dem and a more moderate Dem in KS
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« Reply #959 on: June 20, 2017, 09:53:57 PM »

hot take:

voters are totally separating between their popular (more or less) local R candidate and the hated president.
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« Reply #960 on: June 20, 2017, 09:54:06 PM »

The GA-6 result tonight shows that the reluctant trump voter is still willing to give him a shot, even though they are saying they disapprove of him in . It also shows that dems need to do some massive lesson learning if they are to win back the house in '18.

2018 house rating: Lean R ---> Strong Lean R
Utterly delusional. Double digit swings in every special election, a president with a <40 approval rating. Everything points to a Dem wave

Everything supposedly pointed to one last year too, and we all saw what happened.
Actual results>polls
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« Reply #961 on: June 20, 2017, 09:54:19 PM »

Ossoff couldn't even match his percentage in the 1st round. Sad!

There was a poll where half of Republican Iowa caucus goers supported single payer. Why should Democrats take a position to the right of most Americans on healthcare?

Iowa is different from GA-06.

Iowa is alot more open to government subsidize. GA-06 is dominated by well-off white people. Talking about single payer isn't going to win these people over.
Well, Berniecrats aren't the ones who said to put all the resources into winning districts like GA-06.

Democrats didn't.

Alot of Ossoff's cash came from small donations.

Over $6 million came from the DCCC. It's obvious they want to double down on the Hillary strategy of running a bland campaign that avoids the issues and try to win rich people in the sunbelt, while ignoring the midwest.
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« Reply #962 on: June 20, 2017, 09:54:30 PM »

The GA-6 result tonight shows that the reluctant trump voter is still willing to give him a shot, even though they are saying they disapprove of him in polling. It also shows that dems need to do some massive lesson learning if they are to win back the house in '18.

2018 house rating: Lean R ---> Strong Lean R

One race does not predict the entire midterm. You have many more favorable seats out there for Democrats.
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« Reply #963 on: June 20, 2017, 09:54:35 PM »

Scott, you're smart enough to realize that Quist and Thompson getting the boatloads of money Ossoff got would've been negatives for their campaigns.

Not sure what that has to do with the graphic, but um, okay.

Tweet says how Quist and Thompson had far less money but did 'better' than Ossoff did. I'm saying if they got the financial backing Ossoff got, they would've lost by more than they did.
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« Reply #964 on: June 20, 2017, 09:54:39 PM »

I really think Dems could've done better running a Bullock-style MT Dem and a more moderate Dem in KS
I think so to
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« Reply #965 on: June 20, 2017, 09:55:19 PM »

I have a feeling 2018 is going to have the largest turnout for a midterm in modern history. Maybe 45%
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« Reply #966 on: June 20, 2017, 09:55:34 PM »

The Dems just lost a sh*t-ton of money, lmao.

Individuals, sure. But the party as a whole is totally fine monetarily. The financial effect is basically negligible going forward. Huge portion of Ossoff's war chest came from many small donors across the country. So maybe some people are sitting at home tonight and feeling like they wasted $20. That's really it. No big deal. Situation isn't bad because 'omg Dems just spent a lot of their money and wasted it', there will always be more money. It's bad solely because the amount of money spent obviously did not improve Ossoff's chances.
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« Reply #967 on: June 20, 2017, 09:55:55 PM »

Schweitzer would have knocked the living crap out of Gianforte. He must be courted for future races.
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« Reply #968 on: June 20, 2017, 09:56:04 PM »

Does anyone think that a Sanders clone would have won either of these races? Be honest.

Sanders clones wont win until the leadership of the party is purged.

Half of the Democratic party has no confidence in the party and views the DNC as totally corrupt.

The question wasn't one about the leadership, it was about GA-6. Do you think a Sanders clone would have won GA-6?
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« Reply #969 on: June 20, 2017, 09:56:07 PM »

The GA-6 result tonight shows that the reluctant trump voter is still willing to give him a shot, even though they are saying they disapprove of him in . It also shows that dems need to do some massive lesson learning if they are to win back the house in '18.

2018 house rating: Lean R ---> Strong Lean R
Utterly delusional. Double digit swings in every special election, a president with a <40 approval rating. Everything points to a Dem wave

Everything supposedly pointed to one last year too, and we all saw what happened.
Actual results>polls

Its honestly hard to tell with these swings though, as incumbents tend to get higher % than open races to start with.
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« Reply #970 on: June 20, 2017, 09:56:20 PM »

I have a feeling 2018 is going to have the largest turnout for a midterm in modern history. Maybe 45%
As a non American it's really sad that 45% turnout would be heralded as something good
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« Reply #971 on: June 20, 2017, 09:56:42 PM »

I have a feeling 2018 is going to have the largest turnout for a midterm in modern history. Maybe 45%
It's sad that 45% is high in the US
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« Reply #972 on: June 20, 2017, 09:57:06 PM »

High turnout is good for Republicans.  When the voters stay home, Democrats steal seats.
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« Reply #973 on: June 20, 2017, 09:57:54 PM »

Scott, you're smart enough to realize that Quist and Thompson getting the boatloads of money Ossoff got would've been negatives for their campaigns.

Not sure what that has to do with the graphic, but um, okay.

Tweet says how Quist and Thompson had far less money but did 'better' than Ossoff did. I'm saying if they got the financial backing Ossoff got, they would've lost by more than they did.

The voters do not care.
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« Reply #974 on: June 20, 2017, 09:58:03 PM »

Who thinks that Thompson could have won if he got Ossoff's war chest? I think he would have squeeked by and slightly won.
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