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« on: June 20, 2017, 07:52:45 PM »

WULFRIC PROJECTION: NORMAN WINS SC-5 SPECIAL

CANDIDATE   PARTY   VOTES   PCT.   
Ralph Norman
Republican
34,812   51.6%   

Archie Parnell
Democrat
31,976   47.4   
Josh Thornton
American Party
248   0.4   
Victor Kocher
Libertarian
189   0.3   
David Kulma
Green
182   0.3   
75% reporting (270 of 359 precincts)
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2017, 08:18:30 PM »

WULFRIC PROJECTION: HANDEL WINS GA-6 SPECIAL

CANDIDATE   PARTY   VOTES   PCT.   
Karen Handel
Republican
84,462   51.6%
   
Jon Ossoff
Democrat
79,281   48.4   
39% reporting (82 of 208 precincts)
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2017, 09:50:21 PM »

The GA-6 result tonight shows that the reluctant trump voter is still willing to give him a shot, even though they are saying they disapprove of him in polling. It also shows that dems need to do some massive lesson learning if they are to win back the house in '18.

2018 house rating: Lean R ---> Strong Lean R
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2017, 12:23:23 AM »

In the end, Ossoff received the exact same % of the vote he got in round 1 - 48.1%. All that money to get the same exact % of the vote. What a complete waste. Democrats should have never tried in this seat.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2017, 12:29:29 AM »


Just correcting this wack-ass image that uses DCCC funding for Group A and total contributions (including small donations) for Ossoff; that uses  results instead of  results because it self-cherrypicks the data-points for the narrative they want

Trump won the district by only 1.5 points. The Democrats spent $30 million to have the margin be worse than the 2016 , and Ossoff get a lower percentage of the vote than in the first round.

More votes came in since you last checked. Ossoff got the exact same % that he did in round 1. The votes came in in a different order this time, but they were no more or less pro-ossoff than before.
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2017, 12:42:09 AM »

In the end, Ossoff received the exact same % of the vote he got in round 1 - 48.1%. All that money to get the same exact % of the vote. What a complete waste. Democrats should have never tried in this seat.

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Thank you for posting a quote that validates the idea that dems shouldn't have tried in this seat.

Virginia, Holmes, I understand you guys have obligations to spin this however you can, but let's face it, your party threw everything but the kitchen sink at this race and didn't gain a single tenth of a percentage point over round 1. You aren't winning this in '18, and you're not winning the 7th or some other seat in GA either. If the house  will have a dem majority, it will be because seats flipped elsewhere - the GA  delegation will be unchanged.
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2017, 12:54:16 AM »

Virginia, Holmes, I understand you guys have obligations to spin this however you can, but let's face it, your party threw everything but the kitchen sink at this race and didn't gain a single tenth of a percentage point over round 1. You aren't winning this in '18, and you're not winning the 7th or some other seat in GA either. If the   will have a dem majority, it will be because seats flipped elsewhere - the GA  delegation will be unchanged.

You don't really know that, and your entire argument right now is basically "Ossoff lost, and because I think this was a mistake to target, that means I'm right and you're wrong."

All you've done is make statements and act like they validate themselves. You're talking about a seat that was he lost by a few points in each round, not some landslide blowout, Wulfric.

What else could dems seriously do to win this seat? They literally tried everything.
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2017, 08:38:57 PM »

Just consider this:

Low Investment:

SC-5: Trump 57-39, Norman 51-48 (D + 15)
KS-4: Trump 60-33, Estes 53-46 (D + 20)

Medium Investment:

MT-AL: Trump 57-36, Assaulterforte 50-44 (D + 15)


Maximal Investment:

GA-6: Trump 48-47, Handel 52-48 (R + 3)

While the democrats found success with low or medium Investment, maximal Investment clearly hurt them. Democrats should have spent notably less in GA-6 - it probably would have helped.
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2017, 12:12:30 PM »

Just consider this:

Low Investment:

SC-5: Trump 57-39, Norman 51-48 (D + 15)
KS-4: Trump 60-33, Estes 53-46 (D + 20)

Medium Investment:

MT-AL: Trump 57-36, Assaulterforte 50-44 (D + 15)


Maximal Investment:

GA-6: Trump 48-47, Handel 52-48 (R + 3)

While the democrats found success with low or medium Investment, maximal Investment clearly hurt them. Democrats should have spent notably less in GA-6 - it probably would have helped.

This is buffoonish. Compare Congressional races to past Congressional races, not the Presidential.

The previous Dem congressional candidates in 3 of these 4  races were total nobodies. Plus, your party was touting the gains over Clinton in the other 3 races as a sign a wave was coming, but now that that stat isn't in your favor, it's suddenly worthless? Give me a break.
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