GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread

[DrScholl]

Special elections don't always reflect what will happen in the midterm and there are plenty of Republicans in Clinton districts that will probably lose next year. GA-6 is a Republican gerrymander, anyway and it functioned just as it was intended to tonight. It could flip next year, though.

[DrScholl]

Ossoff should run again.

Please no.

Why not? He came close in a traditionally Republican district and rematches do often result in reversal. It probably will be open next year anyway, because Handel will probably run for Governor being that she is constantly chasing power.

[DrScholl]

Special elections don't always reflect what will happen in the midterm and there are plenty of Republicans in Clinton districts that will probably lose next year. GA-6 is a Republican gerrymander, anyway and it functioned just as it was intended to tonight. It could flip next year, though.

When are you guys actually going to start winning anything?

2018.

[DrScholl]

Once again, the resistance falls short.

Yep!

Nice circle---- you have.

I mean, Trump just gets stronger and stronger and you only get more helpless and helpless. It's just...so magical!

What world are you living in?

LaLa Land.

[DrScholl]

So do you think a Trump supporter can defeat Maxine Waters? How about Nancy Pelosi? Jose Serrano? I mean the results of the special elections leave the possibilities endless for Republicans gains...

[DrScholl]

Look at the districts that Republicans hold that supported Hillary between anywhere from 6-20% (FL-27 being the highest). If this sort of swing was duplicated in those districts, Republicans would all those seats.

[DrScholl]

Well the DCCC has got its work cut out for them in the Romney-Clinton districts in and around Orange County. Obviously it's not the same; but a lot of the groups Dems need to win over here are quite similar to the constituents in GA-6.

Ossoff was probably the best fit in terms of ideology and messaging for these kind of voters. Sh!t

Those districts are anywhere from 2-4% more Democratic than GA-6 and they aren't Republican gerrymanders. It wouldn't even take the sort of swing that occurred in GA-6 to totally turn Orange County blue.

[DrScholl]

How does Corbyn doing well in the UK say anything about US politics?

Besides, Corbyn's fortune had more to do with May's poor choice in calling a snap election and being a not so strong leader. And Corbyn still came up very short of a majority in Parliament.

[DrScholl]

Look at the districts that Republicans hold that supported Hillary between anywhere from 6-20% (FL-27 being the highest). If this sort of swing was duplicated in those districts, Republicans would all those seats.

Moral victory? Is that the new narrative?

You dropped 7:1 the amount of funds into this race and LOST.

You nationalized this race and LOST.

You made it a referendum on President Trump and LOST.

You don't get to change the script now to the "moral victory" line.

Trying to compare this race, the most expensive in history, to previous races where the GOP didn't face any credible opponent is laughable.

This is a swing district that the President carried by 1 point.

Handel IMPROVED on that tonight. After all that was thrown into this race.

Oh, good grief, you are inane. I never said a DAMN thing about a moral victory, I was talking about the damn swing. If you think that this win means that Republicans are safe in the midterm, you are sadly mistaken.

[DrScholl]

Well the DCCC has got its work cut out for them in the Romney-Clinton districts in and around Orange County. Obviously it's not the same; but a lot of the groups Dems need to win over here are quite similar to the constituents in GA-6.

Ossoff was probably the best fit in terms of ideology and messaging for these kind of voters. Sh!t

Those districts are anywhere from 2-4% more Democratic than GA-6 and they aren't Republican gerrymanders. It wouldn't even take the sort of swing that occurred in GA-6 to totally turn Orange County blue.

They also won't have national attention and the same amount of money poured into them. Also GA-06 is about 13% AA. CA-48 for example is only 1%. Hispanics and Asians are far more elastic and they make up the bulk of minority voters in these areas.

Those districts are all at the top of the list for potentially Democratic gains, so they will get attention and locally there are plenty of resources to be competitive. With that said, none of those districts is an exact match for GA-6, so there is only so much you can compare.

[DrScholl]

$30 million to lose a Trump by 1.5 point district by 5 points? Sad!

Admit it, you're happier that Ossoff lost than you would have been if he won, aren't you?

Of course he is happy. Jfern is a mess.

[DrScholl]

Democrats best opportunities are in suburban districts with a lot of moderates. The map is what it is.

[DrScholl]

The Handel crowd goes crazy when she mentions Trump. They start chanting his name and everything.

That's just downright creepy brainwashed behavior there.

That is the Trump cult for you.

[DrScholl]

Does anyone think that a Sanders clone would have won either of these races? Be honest.

[DrScholl]

The GA-6 result tonight shows that the reluctant trump voter is still willing to give him a shot, even though they are saying they disapprove of him in polling. It also shows that dems need to do some massive lesson learning if they are to win back the house in '18.

2018 house rating: Lean R ---> Strong Lean R

One race does not predict the entire midterm. You have many more favorable seats out there for Democrats.

[DrScholl]

Does anyone think that a Sanders clone would have won either of these races? Be honest.

Sanders clones wont win until the leadership of the party is purged.

Half of the Democratic party has no confidence in the party and views the DNC as totally corrupt.

The question wasn't one about the leadership, it was about GA-6. Do you think a Sanders clone would have won GA-6?

[DrScholl]

Ossoff couldn't even match his percentage in the 1st round. Sad!

There was a poll where half of Republican Iowa caucus goers supported single payer. Why should Democrats take a position to the right of most Americans on healthcare?

Iowa is different from GA-06.

Iowa is alot more open to government subsidize. GA-06 is dominated by well-off white people. Talking about single payer isn't going to win these people over.

Well, Berniecrats aren't the ones who said to put all the resources into winning districts like GA-06.

Democrats didn't.

Alot of Ossoff's cash came from small donations.

Over $6 million came from the DCCC. It's obvious they want to double down on the Hillary strategy of running a bland campaign that avoids the issues and try to win rich people in the sunbelt, while ignoring the midwest.

The most vulnerable Republicans are in the sunbelt, not in the midwest. Why target areas, where Trump is still doing fine approval ratings wise?

This cannot be stressed enough. You play where the odds are better.

[DrScholl]

Judging from the result in SC-5, as well as the previous specials where results were closer than expected, I wonder if the money really had much to do with the margin in GA-6. I think there has to be a strategy where enough resources are available, but campaigns are more stealth and can catch Republicans off guard.

[DrScholl]

It's a lie that he got no crossover votes. He wouldn't have received 48% off of Democratic votes alone.

Second, there was third party vote in the presidential election. By percentage,  Ossoff picked up 1%.

In comparison to how the previous Democratic nominee ran, Ossodd ran 10% ahead. It's the downballot number that really shows the swing.