Opinion of Lechasseur

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Opinion of our latest Rochambeau?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Meh.

[RINO Tom]

Not sure about him personally, but HP(olitics).

[Santander]

Not sure about him personally, but HP(olitics).

You mean a typical Republican?

[RINO Tom]

Not sure about him personally, but HP(olitics).

You mean a typical Republican?

No.

[RFayette]

Wait, what even are his political views?  I just thought he was a typical social conservative.

[RINO Tom]

Wait, what even are his political views?  I just thought he was a typical social conservative.

But half of the equation.

[Santander]

Wait, what even are his political views?  I just thought he was a typical social conservative.

But half of the equation.

His views are middle-of-the-road in the Republican voter base.

[RINO Tom]

Wait, what even are his political views?  I just thought he was a typical social conservative.

But half of the equation.

His views are middle-of-the-road in the Republican voter base.

1) I certainly wouldn't call the mass of people who voted for Trump (including a majority of Independents) the "Republican voter 'base.'"

2) I'd still say he's noticeably to the left of the middle of that group.

[The Self]

Face it: the Republican base is collectivist, and this is only becoming more true over time. Two or three cycles and Republican candidates (perhaps not Presidential ones, but certainly Statewide nominees) will begin advocating Keynesian policies.

[RINO Tom]

Face it: the Republican base is collectivist, and this is only becoming more true over time. Two or three cycles and Republican candidates (perhaps not Presidential ones, but certainly Statewide nominees) will begin advocating Keynesian policies.

LOL, okay, buddy.  Even if you were "on to something," you appear willfully blind to the fact that the Democratic base is ten times as *collectivist*, which makes it so hilarious that you are attaching your elitism wagon to that party.

[Santander]

1) I certainly wouldn't call the mass of people who voted for Trump (including a majority of Independents) the "Republican voter 'base.'"

2) I'd still say he's noticeably to the left of the middle of that group.

You are the one who insists nearly every day that most Trump voters are typical Republicans, i.e. the base.

[RINO Tom]

1) I certainly wouldn't call the mass of people who voted for Trump (including a majority of Independents) the "Republican voter 'base.'"

2) I'd still say he's noticeably to the left of the middle of that group.

You are the one who insists nearly every day that most Trump voters are typical Republicans, i.e. the base.

Typical Republicans =/= the base.  The base tends to be the most loyal and most ideological part of a party's electorate, and I'd argue that's not who Trump won.  He regularly won independents in all of the primaries, and a lot of exit polls point to him bringing a lot of new voters to the party's primary process.  I'd argue Cruz "won the base."  The base did turn out for him just fine in the GE, but so did most moderates, business types, neocons, etc.  The point I have been making is that Trump's specific ideology (to the extent such a thing exists) should not be seen as TOO MUCH of a reflection of Republican voters, what they think or who they are.  He was the catch-all candidate for everyone plssed off at "the Establishment" and DC, in general.  He won moderates in most states' contests, after all.  So, no, I do not think the "typical Republican" shares his views so much as the "typical Republican" will likely stay more loyal to the nominee no matter what than the "typical Democrat," and that includes everyone from the rich businessman, the evangelical mom, the Iowa farmer, etc.  They largely all stayed in line, at least enough for him to win.

[Santander]

So, no, I do not think the "typical Republican" shares his views so much as the "typical Republican" will likely stay more loyal to the nominee no matter what than the "typical Democrat," and that includes everyone from the rich businessman, the evangelical mom, the Iowa farmer, etc.  They largely all stayed in line, at least enough for him to win.

And the chart shows the views of the typical Republican - socially conservative, fiscally moderate. In other words, they want the government to keep its hands off established culture/lifestyle norms, and don't mind a bit of wealth redistribution as long as nobody talks about it as such. No group owns the Republican Party, because the national Republican Party is just a label, not a real political party. Anyone can call themselves a Republican. "The base" is whoever turns out to vote for the party. Most of Trump's "base" - the 35% who stand with him through thick and thin - voted for Romney, McCain, and Republicans down ticket. "Movement conservatives" are an ideological faction who happen to identify with the Republican Party, but they are not "the base" alone.

[Mr. Smith]

Meh.

[Antonio the Sixth]

HP for making a post as vapid as this:

I agree with this, but there's definitely a big différence between his centre-left and a hard left like Corbyn's. But that being said what I hear from my french friends is that En Marche is the PS in exile, so in that sense yes I'd say he's centre-left.

I love how he put an accent on "différence".

[Virginiá]

I was wondering why I've never heard of this person, then I noticed he almost exclusively posts in Individual Politics, with a brief detour in What-If's from time to time.

What did he do?

[RFayette]

Wait, what even are his political views?  I just thought he was a typical social conservative.

But half of the equation.

He has a greater E score than you do.

[Kingpoleon]

Wait, what even are his political views?  I just thought he was a typical social conservative.

But half of the equation.

He has a greater E score than you do.

Yes, but....:

Poshard. Super easy choice.

Exactly my kind of politician: a Conservative Democrat.