How will the democrats get back working class voters in the 2020 elections?

[The Chill Moderate Republican]

Donald Trump sending messages to the white working class helped him to flip important swing states in the Midwest. Now the party must change its sense of style to win back those states, or ignore those states entirely and focus on the sun belt.

I don't think the democrats will get the important states of Pennsylvania,Wisconsin,or Michigan, without resorting to the notion of regional politics to win back those narrowly close states in the 2020 election. Many of the states of the Midwest will lose their electoral such as Iowa and  Ohio will possibly cease to be competitive in the current national elections.

The second part of how the democrats might get back without the use of the white working class is let demographics do all the work. Many states in the sun belt are slowly tilting towards the democratic party as more and more minorities start to make an influence in the 2020 election. Some of the most likely states to flip in the 2020 election to the democratic party (what i think) is North Carolina and Arizona.

In my opinion, I Think that it won't be a personal problem if the democrats lose the base of the white working class, they will just have small minority groups make up for their loses in the Midwest. Either way, the democratic party can try its hardest to pull the working class to them, or give up on them entirely.

[Mr. Smith]

The Midwest and Florida would've held fine if minority turnout had remained on level with Obama's. Arizona would've flipped too.

[Hammy]

Best way is to put up somebody who doesn't have the image of being connected to Wall Street--both parties lost votes in the "blue firewall" states, but the Dems lost far move voters. Larger numbers of Dems than GOPers will stay home if they don't like either candidate.

[TML]

Democrats don't need to win this group outright, they simply need to narrow their losing margins from 2016 in order to win the next election. This can be accomplished by:

(1) Pitching specific elements of their policy platform which can work in this group's favor (e.g. protecting social security and welfare benefits, strengthening unions, increasing access to affordable health care, etc.);
(2) Backing off their ties to Wall Street and other elites;
(3) Spending more personal outreach time to such voters, especially in suburban/rural areas.

All of these were clearly deficient in Hillary's 2016 campaign. Remember, of the states which flipped to Trump, three (WI, MI, and PA) were decided by less than 1%, while a fourth (FL) was decided by less than 2%. The first three states would have flipped if about 0.4% of all Trump voters nationwide flipped to Hillary, while a 0.6% flip would have caused FL to flip as well.

I agree that the Rust Belt states are still important in the foreseeable future; according to current projections, MI, OH, PA, and WI are expected to combine for 61 EVs in the 2024 and 2028 (compared to 64 in 2020). However, I think this group of states will probably carry very little electoral weight several generations down the road.

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I'm for shunning them, not winning.

And there is the establishment viewpoint in a nutshell. But those who crashed the world economy and support endless wars in the middle east should be embraced, right?

[Saint Milei]

They won't.

[Chief Justice Keef]

Talk less about Russia and talk more about healthcare and economics. And do it with passion.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

I'm for shunning them, not winning.

And there is the establishment viewpoint in a nutshell. But those who crashed the world economy and support endless wars in the middle east should be embraced, right?

Embracing voters who hate the rest of the democrats is not a way to win.

[RINO Tom]

I'm for shunning them, not winning.

And there is the establishment viewpoint in a nutshell. But those who crashed the world economy and support endless wars in the middle east should be embraced, right?

Embracing voters who hate the rest of the democrats is not a way to win.

Neither is relying on the "rest of the Democrats," as there aren't enough of them.  You need to win a group you're not winning now, and most people think the logical choice is to win people who recently voted for you.  How crazy!

Anyway, let's first point out that this past Democratic nominee DID win "working class voters."  She lost WHITE "working class voters," but she won the group overall, and within minority voters she did better with working class ones than more affluent and educated ones.  As mentioned by TML, they just need Obama margins.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

I'm for shunning them, not winning.

And there is the establishment viewpoint in a nutshell. But those who crashed the world economy and support endless wars in the middle east should be embraced, right?

Embracing voters who hate the rest of the democrats is not a way to win.

Neither is relying on the "rest of the Democrats," as there aren't enough of them.  You need to win a group you're not winning now, and most people think the logical choice is to win people who recently voted for you.  How crazy!

Anyway, let's first point out that this past Democratic nominee DID win "working class voters."  She lost WHITE "working class voters," but she won the group overall, and within minority voters she did better with working class ones than more affluent and educated ones.  As mentioned by TML, they just need Obama margins.

Appealing to people who want to stay in the past is not the way to the future.

[RINO Tom]

I'm for shunning them, not winning.

And there is the establishment viewpoint in a nutshell. But those who crashed the world economy and support endless wars in the middle east should be embraced, right?

Embracing voters who hate the rest of the democrats is not a way to win.

Neither is relying on the "rest of the Democrats," as there aren't enough of them.  You need to win a group you're not winning now, and most people think the logical choice is to win people who recently voted for you.  How crazy!

Anyway, let's first point out that this past Democratic nominee DID win "working class voters."  She lost WHITE "working class voters," but she won the group overall, and within minority voters she did better with working class ones than more affluent and educated ones.  As mentioned by TML, they just need Obama margins.

Appealing to people who want to stay in the past is not the way to the future.

That's a great tagline and all, but appealing to people who might not want to stay in the past (say, educated and wealthy Whites living in suburban districts) but literally don't agree with your party's platform and have showed multiple times now that they'll bite the bullet even in the age of Trump if it means conservative economic policies isn't exactly one either.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

I'm for shunning them, not winning.

And there is the establishment viewpoint in a nutshell. But those who crashed the world economy and support endless wars in the middle east should be embraced, right?

Embracing voters who hate the rest of the democrats is not a way to win.

Neither is relying on the "rest of the Democrats," as there aren't enough of them.  You need to win a group you're not winning now, and most people think the logical choice is to win people who recently voted for you.  How crazy!

Anyway, let's first point out that this past Democratic nominee DID win "working class voters."  She lost WHITE "working class voters," but she won the group overall, and within minority voters she did better with working class ones than more affluent and educated ones.  As mentioned by TML, they just need Obama margins.

Appealing to people who want to stay in the past is not the way to the future.

That's a great tagline and all, but appealing to people who might not want to stay in the past (say, educated and wealthy Whites living in suburban districts) but literally don't agree with your party's platform and have showed multiple times now that they'll bite the bullet even in the age of Trump if it means conservative economic policies isn't exactly one either.

The vast majority of Clinton Republicans voted for Ossoff.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

I'm for shunning them, not winning.

And there is the establishment viewpoint in a nutshell. But those who crashed the world economy and support endless wars in the middle east should be embraced, right?

                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                               You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. I don't support the establishment, I'm for taking the party to the left of Bernie, actually. If working class voters respond to that message, fine, but no need to pander to them if it's not going to work. My impression is most of them care more about "culture wars" than economics, so I'm not hopeful.

[publicunofficial]

I'm for shunning them, not winning.

And there is the establishment viewpoint in a nutshell. But those who crashed the world economy and support endless wars in the middle east should be embraced, right?

                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                               You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. I don't support the establishment, I'm for taking the party to the left of Bernie, actually. If working class voters respond to that message, fine, but no need to pander to them if it's not going to work. My impression is most of them care more about "culture wars" than economics, so I'm not hopeful.

Good luck trying to sell leftist politics to comfortable suburbanites.

Anyway, the real answer is obvious. We need a hard-working real American who got where he is by his own bootstraps. Mark Zuckerberg 2020, Mark Zuckerberg forever.

[Stranger in a strange land]

The Midwest and Florida would've held fine if minority turnout had remained on level with Obama's. Arizona would've flipped too.

IF minority turnout had held up
IF the suburbs had swung hard enough against Trump
IF Hillary hadn't gotten blown out in rural areas

IF any of those things had happened, Clinton would have won WI, MI, PA, FL, and therefore the election. None of them did, which was the problem.

[AGA]

Democrats might need to tone down the rhetoric on climate change and social issues a bit because most of the white working class is socially conservative and is not motivated by climate change policy. Voters in general, especially the working class, care about economics, and if Democrats focus on genuine economic proposals to help the working class, they could win back a lot of Obama-Trump voters.

Also, unless Trump turns out to have a clear and problematic relationship with Russia, Democrats should stay away from making Russia a talking point. It didn't work in 2016.

[Tancred]

Jobs, jobs, and jobs. Specifically take a page from the Trump playbook and make trade a big issue, go after NAFTA and other trade agreements but add that these jobs won't be "good jobs" unless Americans are allowed to collectively bargain with their bosses which means making it easier for workers to unionize if they choose to. No more race to the bottom economics that pits the Rust Belt against the Sun Belt. In fact, "race to the bottom" would be one of my main slogans if I was the Democratic nominee.

I would utilize nostalgia and say that the middle class was strongest when over 30% of the private sector was unionized and workers could support a family on one income. That since then families need two incomes to survive, are more stressed out, less happy, have less free time, etc.  On immigration I would say that we need to go after the employers who hire illegals instead of scapegoating illegals themselves. I would bring back the "Benedict Arnold company" line for companies that outsource or choose to hire non-Americans over American citizens.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Hillary won the working class vote so I guess you mean white?

The Democrats are going to have to be less vocal about certain issues that white voters don't care about, but in the end it may cause apathy among black and brown voters. They have to walk a tightrope and I don't envy the 2020 nominee.

[PragmaticPopulist]

I've always thought that it's counterproductive to solely focus on the up-and-coming Democratic base of college-educated professionals and minorities. I think in order to win, Democrats go back to something like what Obama was, but less prone to verbal gaffes involving working-class whites. Someone from outside a city, or at least someone who relates to middle- and working-class voters could probably bring back enough of them into the Democratic fold to pull off a win. Sherrod Brown, Amy Klobuchar, Al Franken, Steve Bullock, maybe even Roy Cooper.

As for messaging, there needs to be more emphasis on economics. That's not to say Democrats should ignore other issues such as renewable energy and immigration. A sizable majority of Americans support a path to citizenship as well as alternative energy. Just don't overemphasize it.

Fight unfair trade, protect unions, fight for universal healthcare - you name it. Just avoid getting too deep into cultural issues.

[Suburbia]

Don't run people like Shaun King and the SJWs.

[GoTfan]

I'm for shunning them, not winning.

And there is the establishment viewpoint in a nutshell. But those who crashed the world economy and support endless wars in the middle east should be embraced, right?

Embracing voters who hate the rest of the democrats is not a way to win.

Neither is relying on the "rest of the Democrats," as there aren't enough of them.  You need to win a group you're not winning now, and most people think the logical choice is to win people who recently voted for you.  How crazy!

Anyway, let's first point out that this past Democratic nominee DID win "working class voters."  She lost WHITE "working class voters," but she won the group overall, and within minority voters she did better with working class ones than more affluent and educated ones.  As mentioned by TML, they just need Obama margins.

Appealing to people who want to stay in the past is not the way to the future.

That's a great tagline and all, but appealing to people who might not want to stay in the past (say, educated and wealthy Whites living in suburban districts) but literally don't agree with your party's platform and have showed multiple times now that they'll bite the bullet even in the age of Trump if it means conservative economic policies isn't exactly one either.

The vast majority of Clinton Republicans voted for Ossoff.

And that means absolutely nothing, because both of them lost. Democrats need to shift decisively to the left on economics, or say goodbye to the industrial states for good.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

Working class people in particular, or working class whites?

Because to win back working class whites, the Democrats would need to nominate someone like Joe Manchin or Steve Bullock.

[GoTfan]

Working class people in particular, or working class whites?

Because to win back working class whites, the Democrats would need to nominate someone like Joe Manchin or Steve Bullock.

Only Blue Dogs can appeal to the WWC? Bernie polled pretty well with them. Democrats need to start thinking utside the box instead of going further to the right, because soon, the Republicans will simply jump off the edge to neo-fascism, and the current party's thinking is that we need to go further right with them. People want a left wing alternative.

[America's Sweetheart ❤/𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕭𝖔𝖔𝖙𝖞 𝖂𝖆𝖗𝖗𝖎𝖔𝖗]

Working class people in particular, or working class whites?

Because to win back working class whites, the Democrats would need to nominate someone like Joe Manchin or Steve Bullock.

Only Blue Dogs can appeal to the WWC? Bernie polled pretty well with them. Democrats need to start thinking utside the box instead of going further to the right, because soon, the Republicans will simply jump off the edge to neo-fascism, and the current party's thinking is that we need to go further right with them. People want a left wing alternative.

The last Democrat to do  very well with the WWC at the Presidential level was a certain Centrist from Arkansas.

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

I'm for shunning them, not winning.

And there is the establishment viewpoint in a nutshell. But those who crashed the world economy and support endless wars in the middle east should be embraced, right?

Embracing voters who hate the rest of the democrats is not a way to win.

Neither is relying on the "rest of the Democrats," as there aren't enough of them.  You need to win a group you're not winning now, and most people think the logical choice is to win people who recently voted for you.  How crazy!

Anyway, let's first point out that this past Democratic nominee DID win "working class voters."  She lost WHITE "working class voters," but she won the group overall, and within minority voters she did better with working class ones than more affluent and educated ones.  As mentioned by TML, they just need Obama margins.

Appealing to people who want to stay in the past is not the way to the future.

That's a great tagline and all, but appealing to people who might not want to stay in the past (say, educated and wealthy Whites living in suburban districts) but literally don't agree with your party's platform and have showed multiple times now that they'll bite the bullet even in the age of Trump if it means conservative economic policies isn't exactly one either.

The vast majority of Clinton Republicans voted for Ossoff.

And that means absolutely nothing, because both of them lost. Democrats need to shift decisively to the left on economics, or say goodbye to the industrial states for good.

There's a path to victory that isn't pandering to Iowa.