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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2017, 02:15:33 PM »

Be honest people: how many poor people do you know who'd even be qualified to run a federal department? Using a sensible definition of poor, anyway...

What qualifies as poor? I didn't see the full exchange, but something tells me that Trump's idea of 'poor' is much more broad than just about anyone else.
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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2017, 02:17:49 PM »

Be honest people: how many poor people do you know who'd even be qualified to run a federal department? Using a sensible definition of poor, anyway...

Aren't you supposed to be some kind of Christian "communitarian"?
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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2017, 02:23:39 PM »

Be honest people: how many poor people do you know who'd even be qualified to run a federal department? Using a sensible definition of poor, anyway...

I've met hobos who probably have a better grasp of America's affordable housing crisis than Ben Carson does.
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« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2017, 02:26:16 PM »

Be honest people: how many poor people do you know who'd even be qualified to run a federal department? Using a sensible definition of poor, anyway...

Aren't you supposed to be some kind of Christian "communitarian"?

Dude doesn't want poor people running federal departments, yet his savior is a homeless Middle Eastern refugee carpenter born in a manger to an unwed teenage mother...
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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2017, 02:30:22 PM »

Be honest people: how many poor people do you know who'd even be qualified to run a federal department? Using a sensible definition of poor, anyway...

Aren't you supposed to be some kind of Christian "communitarian"?

Does he not fit into your bubble you've created for Christians (over 75% of the population)?
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« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2017, 02:32:47 PM »

Be honest people: how many poor people do you know who'd even be qualified to run a federal department? Using a sensible definition of poor, anyway...

Aren't you supposed to be some kind of Christian "communitarian"?

Dude doesn't want poor people running federal departments, yet his savior is a homeless Middle Eastern refugee carpenter born in a manger to an unwed teenage mother...

It's beyond that. My takeaway is that politically this poster supports a kind of all-around big government philosophy - welfarism tinged with a thoroughgoing moralistic busybodyism. It's simply jarring to hear anti-poor rhetoric from a bleeding heart.

The time has come for thoroughgoing individualists to put Christianity to bed.
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« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2017, 03:09:44 PM »

Be honest people: how many poor people do you know who'd even be qualified to run a federal department? Using a sensible definition of poor, anyway...

Aren't you supposed to be some kind of Christian "communitarian"?

Dude doesn't want poor people running federal departments, yet his savior is a homeless Middle Eastern refugee carpenter born in a manger to an unwed teenage mother...

It's beyond that. My takeaway is that politically this poster supports a kind of all-around big government philosophy - welfarism tinged with a thoroughgoing moralistic busybodyism. It's simply jarring to hear anti-poor rhetoric from a bleeding heart.

The time has come for thoroughgoing individualists to put Christianity to bed.

Too bad most individualists are Christians.  Good luck.
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« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2017, 03:12:48 PM »

Be honest people: how many poor people do you know who'd even be qualified to run a federal department? Using a sensible definition of poor, anyway...

Aren't you supposed to be some kind of Christian "communitarian"?

Dude doesn't want poor people running federal departments, yet his savior is a homeless Middle Eastern refugee carpenter born in a manger to an unwed teenage mother...

It's beyond that. My takeaway is that politically this poster supports a kind of all-around big government philosophy - welfarism tinged with a thoroughgoing moralistic busybodyism. It's simply jarring to hear anti-poor rhetoric from a bleeding heart.

The time has come for thoroughgoing individualists to put Christianity to bed.

Too bad most individualists are Christians.  Good luck.

Most "individualist Christians" aren't actual individualists.

Which is why the 'rugged individualist' rhetoric of your Party today rings so hollow. There's nothing individualistic about assimilating comfortably into the mass culture. On a personal level, in fact, I admire a Marxist true believer in the United States more than most of today's 'individualists'. He at least has the courage of his convictions.
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« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2017, 03:22:22 PM »

Be honest people: how many poor people do you know who'd even be qualified to run a federal department? Using a sensible definition of poor, anyway...

What qualifies as poor? I didn't see the full exchange, but something tells me that Trump's idea of 'poor' is much more broad than just about anyone else.

Exactly. From what is in on his cabinent, "poor" could have been referring to the type upper-middle class  to modestly wealthy career public administrators and researchers that regularly take such roles.
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« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2017, 03:54:07 PM »

Be honest people: how many poor people do you know who'd even be qualified to run a federal department? Using a sensible definition of poor, anyway...

Aren't you supposed to be some kind of Christian "communitarian"?

Dude doesn't want poor people running federal departments, yet his savior is a homeless Middle Eastern refugee carpenter born in a manger to an unwed teenage mother...

Like many on the American right-wing, he likely
doesn't follow canon Jesus, but worships fanon Jesus.



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« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2017, 04:15:22 PM »

I would hire someone economically successful to be a economic secretary if I were POTUS. I don't see the problem.
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« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2017, 04:16:49 PM »

I would hire someone economically successful to be a economic secretary if I were POTUS. I don't see the problem.

If you were POTUS, you'd have declared bankruptcy five times.
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« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2017, 04:18:34 PM »

I would hire someone economically successful to be a economic secretary if I were POTUS. I don't see the problem.

If you were POTUS, you'd have declared bankruptcy five times.
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« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2017, 04:25:24 PM »
« Edited: June 22, 2017, 04:27:47 PM by The Self »

I would hire someone economically successful to be a economic secretary if I were POTUS. I don't see the problem.

If you were POTUS, you'd have declared bankruptcy five times.
*sigh*

The point is that Republicans are excusing in Trump behavior they would condemn in a worker. Bankruptcy, I've been taught, is a sign of a moral failing in the working class. It takes on spiritual overtones when conservatives speak of it - in the context of laborers.

In my view, you excuse it because Trump didn't acquire his wealth in an individualistic fashion. He didn't work for it, as I and others of my class have. He's old money pretending to be new money.
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« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2017, 04:26:21 PM »

I would hire someone economically successful to be a economic secretary if I were POTUS. I don't see the problem.

Because "have wealthy and well-connected parents, go to Ivy League schools, then work on Wall Street" isn't readily transferable to an $18 trillion dollar economy of 325 million people.
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« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2017, 04:28:38 PM »

Be honest people: how many poor people do you know who'd even be qualified to run a federal department? Using a sensible definition of poor, anyway...

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« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2017, 04:29:25 PM »

I would hire someone economically successful to be a economic secretary if I were POTUS. I don't see the problem.

Because "have wealthy and well-connected parents, go to Ivy League schools, then work on Wall Street" isn't readily transferable to an $18 trillion dollar economy of 325 million people.
Any success is still success imo unless it's just flat-out ripping people off
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« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2017, 05:09:18 PM »

I would hire someone economically successful to be a economic secretary if I were POTUS. I don't see the problem.

Because "have wealthy and well-connected parents, go to Ivy League schools, then work on Wall Street" isn't readily transferable to an $18 trillion dollar economy of 325 million people.
Any success is still success imo unless it's just flat-out ripping people off

Trump U, anyone?
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« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2017, 05:31:27 PM »

I would hire someone economically successful to be a economic secretary if I were POTUS. I don't see the problem.

Because "have wealthy and well-connected parents, go to Ivy League schools, then work on Wall Street" isn't readily transferable to an $18 trillion dollar economy of 325 million people.
Any success is still success imo unless it's just flat-out ripping people off

You're congratulating the catcher for being at home plate.
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« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2017, 05:46:54 PM »
« Edited: June 22, 2017, 05:48:40 PM by Çråbçæk »

The odd thing about Trumps cabinet is almost without fail, every single member made their fortune in entirely parasitic manners. I mean it's most obvious with DeVos, considering how her family made their fortune, but asset strippers and rentiers are the predominant species within cabinet (in addition to career politicians and military figures) rather than, say, inventors or innovators.

Ross is an especially dismal appointment that in a rational world would have been seen as a hideous betrayal of trust of coal miners by trump.
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« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2017, 06:01:03 PM »
« Edited: June 22, 2017, 06:03:29 PM by The Self »

The odd thing about Trumps cabinet is almost without fail, every single member made their fortune in entirely parasitic manners. I mean it's most obvious with DeVos, considering how her family made their fortune, but asset strippers and rentiers are the predominant species within cabinet (in addition to career politicians and military figures) rather than, say, inventors or innovators.

Ross is an especially dismal appointment that in a rational world would have been seen as a hideous betrayal of trust of coal miners by trump.

Precisely this. I know a number of fairly prominent businessmen - not national figures, but local ones - and almost to a man they detest Trump for just this reason. There certainly is a class war in America: between productive and nonproductive capital. Trump practically embodies the latter. In ages past we called them rentiers, and England had a long domestic cold war over the course of the entire nineteenth century struggling to get rid of them.
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« Reply #46 on: June 22, 2017, 06:23:28 PM »

If only more poor (and lower middle class) people knew what Trump's really about, and voted their economic interests.
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« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2017, 08:01:20 PM »

I would hire someone economically successful to be a economic secretary if I were POTUS. I don't see the problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
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« Reply #48 on: June 22, 2017, 08:09:40 PM »


Meh, making an ad of this would be a waste of money.

Nope. Dems need to run with this. Put together a vicious attack ad with this in it. Letting this slide would be a wasted opportunity
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« Reply #49 on: June 22, 2017, 09:44:09 PM »


Meh, making an ad of this would be a waste of money.

Nope. Dems need to run with this. Put together a vicious attack ad with this in it. Letting this slide would be a wasted opportunity

Please, don't.

Running against the stupid and evil things Trump says doesn't really work, and a great many of his supporters don't care.

Run against the stupid and evil things Trump does, that hurt a great many of his supporters or issues they care about.
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