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pbrower2a
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« on: June 22, 2017, 09:50:37 AM »

The right-wing suggestion: that people not rich will humble themselves before their masters and dedicate their entire lives to the enrichment of their masters in one big, happy plantation.

Violence is wrong as a general rule.

I hate Donald Trump. I thought him merely a sick joke so long as I could avoid his influence. It's not because he is rich; it is because he uses his riches to create a nasty, vulgar world.  There are nasty, vulgar poor people, too, and I don't like them. But at least the poor have the excuse of inadequate education. Donald Trump has no such excuse; he is about as pure an egoist as a hero in an Ayn Rand novel -- the type who sees his selfish greed as a great virtue and the rightful role of the rest of humanity to defer to his selfish greed.   

The rich are fine when they get their riches by doing real good for people through innovations in commerce and technology. Whatever their faults, John D. Rockefeller at least got us inexpensive energy; Henry Ford got us some affordable cars; the movie moguls of the 1930s gave us a great wealth of cultural expression worthy of continued appreciation; Sam Walton made a lot of the good life available to people who had been priced out of it. So what does Trump do? He simply exploits a permanent scarcity in housing. Except for an excursion into reality TV -- bad reality TV worse than what I usually reject -- his entrepreneurial efforts have been failures. They guy lost money in casinos -- and in vodka. Can you imagine losing money as the owner of a casino or in making vodka?   

The only good thing that I can see about Donald Trump is that he is showing us what to reject in the next leader. He's making Obama look like an FDR or Lincoln by contrast even if Obama's temperament and inability to force his agenda suggests Eisenhower.   


Donald Trump is a corrupt kleptocrat who sees power solely as a pretext to enrich and indulge himself. His taste says "Ceausescu", "Qaddafi", or "Saddam". Does anyone want to guess what Warren Buffett thinks of him? 
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2017, 05:51:17 AM »

Modern secular social liberalism has at its root the same pitch as Satan gave to Eve: you know better than God, so why follow His rules? In a very literal way, social liberalism, atheism, libertarianism, etc. could all be labeled as Satanic and rightfully so.

Modern secular social liberalism is not predicated upon the rejection of God. Modern secular social liberalism is predicated upon the idea that one cannot fully trust the voice in your head as the dictate of God. That voice could as easily be sheer nonsense, if not Satan. I have heard that voice in my head at times, and for the good of Humanity I rejected that voice. It often told me to commit a crime or at least something despicable.

In one of the worst times in my life - last year -- I had to push myself to visit my demented father in a mental ward in South Bend. I was nearly broke, so I had to find a way to reward myself for facing a rigid bureaucracy and a father who did not appreciate me. He threw punches at me on occasion. I didn't want to go shopping (drain on what few assets I had). Eating out? Likewise, except for stopping at a fast-food place and getting a giant soda and a hamburger patty for my traveling companion -- the family dog. The hamburger patty didn't last long.

The worst time was when I arranged to take the dog outside the window (I couldn't take it into the ward) so that it could see my father. The dog was excited. My father, to my astonishment, scolded me for doing so. I expected praise for letting him get as close to one of his best friends as the bureaucracy allowed.

I took some trips to a Japanese garden nearby.  Nice, peaceful, and beautiful, unlike the rest of my life -- and a reminder of some culture very different from mine. There was fall color at the time...   

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Well, we do have the ethical teachings of sacred text, and most of those hold up well. That's not to say that I would concur with young-earth creationism,  the more bloodthirsty dictates of Leviticus, the kosher food laws, or some of the more fanatical teachings of Jesus. (The economic realities of Jesus' time were simple: the rich were either oppressors or criminals, there was no middle class, economics was mostly a zero-sum game, and the High Priests were corrupt. Giving up family life to follow a religious leader is not a pure blessing, and I would not now tell a small businessman to liquidate his assets including a job-creating, wealth-creating enterprise). 

Donald Trump is the sort of secular leader whom Jesus would excoriate for his rapaciousness, lasciviousness, cruelty, corruption, and despotic style. I have a thread elsewhere on tyrannical style. A hint: a little restraint in the expression of wealth makes a huge difference between the Rockefeller family which has some humane decency and someone like Nicolae Ceausescu. Ceausescu has a palace which suggests an oil sheik whose family controls the majority of the wealth in his family's country, except that the foliage suggests Ohio instead of Oman.

Donald Trump is about as Christian as Nicolae Ceausescu.  But I have a thread on a history forum to offer you:


Here's "Trump taste"



and a critique:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/donald-trumps-art-collection-reviewed/

In any event here is a link to a thread on dictatorial taste. All of the examples are of people with great power to grab resources and put them to expression of their dreams -- often the intimate dreams of personal excess. This is not expressions of old royal families who have the excuse that some absolute-monarch ancestor set up a spectacular pleasure palace that remains to this day nearly unchanged. Of course I would expect the reigning monarchs of the UK, the Netherlands, Spain, and Japan to have plush surroundings. The tyrannical kleptocrats that I mention (Ceausescu, Saddam Hussein, Yanukevich, Marcos, Bokassa, and Goering) dictated what was to be build for their bloated egos.

It's not simply power. The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom has had great power, as exemplified by Churchill in World War II, But 10 Downing Street is remarkably austere by contrast to the pleasure places of the bad guys mentioned in the last paragraph.  You will notice that 10 Downing is at a human scale, which befits a Prime Minister who may have been a miner or an industrial worker before becoming a union official and in turn a MP, or to the daughter of a pharmacist who as Prime Minister had small businesspeople as a large constituency. But just read the thread and get the idea.

http://generational-theory.com/forum/thread-713.html

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God did not give us matches and lighters, but just because I have matches or a lighter does not mean that I am entitled to commit arson. 


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Of course we also have senses, and those senses give me a quick warning to pull back from a hot object or to retreat from a vile, sulfurous smell. But I am not Jesus, and I am not in the desert. If I wanted to go to a desert it might be something like Scottsdale, Arizona, which isn't much of a sacrifice.   

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...the Right is just as vulnerable to the appeal for those things. I think that I am wise enough to know that beyond a certain level of income I am not likely to be happier just for having more power as a consumer. Fame is a dubious commodity, something as much a burden as a boon. Sex is nice, but it comes with consequences for misconduct of certain standards. I hate drugs, so those are not a temptation. Power? Only for doing good, I say.   
 
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I have a conscience, so I found a situation in which a boy running out of his parents SUV and showing fear inappropriate (I expect a whooping) for his age utterly appalling. I do care what people do to me. I took great offense with a threat of being gay-bashed and of being accused of molesting children. I cannot see images from the concentration camps of Nazi Germany without disgust. I can't imagine what I would have thought had I been one of the Allied soldiers who liberated one of the camps.

We care about what others do or we have an incredible nightmare.  I consider a good society good for me even if its strictures are inconvenient.   

   
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And someone like Irma Grese could loose her dogs upon me, an emaciated and helpless inmate of a concentration camp, and be even more helpless than a Christian in one of those sick Roman circuses in which the Emperor allows lions to kill and eat Christians. Dogs have much similarity in build and behavior to lions; they simply aren't as efficient.

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Man is more adept at creating Hell than at creating heaven.
 
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Have you ever heard of the paradox of hedonism? The most obvious ways to get quick delight, whether sweets, chemical highs, gambling, impulse shopping, loveless sex, and most forms of thrill-seeking, are extremely intense but ephemeral -- and often destructive. They often rely little on planning or foresight, and they may be enjoyed with extreme selfishness. The more lasting delights are developed more slowly and often involve an empathic interaction in which one takes delight in someone else's satisfaction. This too is hedonism, but it seeks more lasting, if less intense happiness.  This sort of hedonism is less destructive and less likely to result in some calamity.

The Right is as vulnerable to crass hedonism as anyone else.

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I have no desire for any connection to anything Satanic. Maybe "Satan" is nothing more than a perverse subconscious.
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