Will the Republican Party, in its current form, ever nominate a Southerner?
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« on: June 24, 2017, 02:15:37 PM »

An authentic one, that is. Bush père was a carpetbagger and Bush fils a carpetbagger-once-removed.

It's strange they haven't. Parties typically tend to nominate people representative of their electoral base. It makes them feel more at-ease supporting that Party and its candidate. Since the New Deal, the Democrats have had four (Truman, Johnson, Carter, Clinton) Presidents with genuine roots south of the Mason-Dixon. Republicans have had none.
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2017, 11:50:00 PM »

Marco Rubio
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2017, 11:21:03 AM »

Obama made sense. Trump? Not so much to the base though he did make sense to as to the elite of the party.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2017, 11:24:04 AM »

Neither party has had a southerner on the ticket since 2004 except for Tim Kaine, and he was arguably picked more because he is a beltway insider who owes his career to NoVa than anything to do with the south.
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2017, 11:44:29 AM »

Doubt it.
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2017, 11:51:25 AM »

George W Bush was not a carpet bagger, he was a Texan.
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2017, 12:14:01 PM »

Neither party has had a southerner on the ticket since 2004 except for Tim Kaine, and he was arguably picked more because he is a beltway insider who owes his career to NoVa than anything to do with the south.

This is beside the point, but he's actually from Richmond and in his 2005 gubernatorial win, he would've won statewide even if you threw out Fairfax, Loudoun, Prince William, Arlington, and Alexandria. He did quite well in the Richmond and Tidewater areas.
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2017, 12:29:24 PM »

Neither party has had a southerner on the ticket since 2004 except for Tim Kaine, and he was arguably picked more because he is a beltway insider who owes his career to NoVa than anything to do with the south.

This is beside the point, but he's actually from Richmond and in his 2005 gubernatorial win, he would've won statewide even if you threw out Fairfax, Loudoun, Prince William, Arlington, and Alexandria. He did quite well in the Richmond and Tidewater areas.

Well I'll be, you're actually right. Look, the guy just didn't give off southern vibes. It'll be a 50-50. Apparently he was born in Minnesota, grew up and went to school in Kansas, and didn't move to Virginia until after his law school graduation. Maybe that explains his Catholicism. I still think the south as the country's largest region has been underrepresented on tickets since 2004.
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2017, 01:10:02 PM »


I don't consider Cubans, even anti-Castro Cubans, "Southern" by any stretch of the imagination. What's more, I'm about 90% certain that Rubio will never be on a Republican ticket, either on the top or bottom half.
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2017, 07:52:01 AM »

Rand Paul would have been great, but he ran a woefully pathetic primary campaign.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2017, 11:36:57 AM »

Marco Rubio is not a southerner. He is from Las Vegas and Miami, two cities that no one believes are in the South.
I think it's possible, the Republicans have candidates like Tom Cotton (born & raised in Ark) and Tim Scott (born & raised in SC) and Adam Putnam (born & raised in central Fla) they could run in the coming years. And that's not even including political unknowns who could come out of the woodwork in the coming years, assuming the Republican Party lasts a couple more generations.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2017, 12:27:59 PM »

Probally will eventually happen but with the party's turn to Trumpism and the Party moving towards a northern base it got a little less likely.
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2017, 10:55:19 AM »

Sonny Perdue, Nathan Deal, Newt Gingrich, all Southerners who I think could grasp the Republican nomination.
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2017, 02:29:17 PM »

Sonny Perdue, Nathan Deal, Newt Gingrich, all Southerners who I think could grasp the Republican nomination.
I think once Trump's time is done, the GOP will be done with Baby Boomers.
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2017, 02:22:48 PM »

Probably.

There's a media bias against white male southerners, but some of the options for Republicans avoid that problem (Nikki Haley, Tim Scott.) Even before considering that, a large chunk of the party's bench comes from the region, so there is likely to come a point when one of the candidates from the area wins a primary over opponents from the midwest, northeast and sun belt.
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2017, 02:47:15 PM »

Probably.

There's a media bias against white male southerners, but some of the options for Republicans avoid that problem (Nikki Haley, Tim Scott.) Even before considering that, a large chunk of the party's bench comes from the region, so there is likely to come a point when one of the candidates from the area wins a primary over opponents from the midwest, northeast and sun belt.

Most people will think I mean only that he is Black and could maybe get a higher percent of the Black vote (not even sure he could), but I really think Tim Scott would be a great nominee.  He is very conservative but portrays his ideology in a relatively inoffensive and dignified way, and he's quite likeable.
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2017, 02:58:20 PM »

There's a media bias against white male southerners,

What, are they oppressed or something?
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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2017, 03:04:17 PM »

There's a media bias against white male southerners,

What, are they oppressed or something?

Those don't have to go along with each other.
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2017, 03:05:31 PM »

There's a media bias against white male southerners,

What, are they oppressed or something?

Those don't have to go along with each other.

But they tend to.

No element in the Republican coalition is, or ever has been, oppressed at any point in American history.
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2017, 04:25:10 PM »

There's a media bias against white male southerners,

What, are they oppressed or something?

Those don't have to go along with each other.

But they tend to.

No element in the Republican coalition is, or ever has been, oppressed at any point in American history.

Slight hyperbole, but that's beside the point.  The media - a huge chunk of which is not White men at this point - can be biased against White Southern men specifically BECAUSE they are not oppressed, especially among members of the media who come from backgrounds of peoples who ARE oppressed.
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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2017, 08:14:20 PM »

George W Bush was not a carpet bagger, he was a Texan.
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« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2017, 04:55:47 PM »

Sonny Perdue, Nathan Deal, Newt Gingrich, all Southerners who I think could grasp the Republican nomination.
Newt-Nah he already his chance in 2012 to grasp the Nomination for President and he didn't do it.
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