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uti2
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« on: June 24, 2017, 07:24:58 PM »

Describe which candidate in the 2016 field fits this description:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Dewey

About Dewey -

. He spoke in platitudes, trying to transcend politics. Speech after speech was filled with empty statements of the obvious, such as the famous quote: "You know that your future is still ahead of you." An editorial in the Louisville Courier-Journal summed it up:

No presidential candidate in the future will be so inept that four of his major speeches can be boiled down to these historic four sentences: Agriculture is important. Our rivers are full of fish. You cannot have freedom without liberty. Our future lies ahead......

Dewey's frequent refusal to discuss specific issues and proposals in his campaigns was based partly on his belief in public opinion polls; one biographer claimed that he "had an almost religious belief in the revolutionary science of public-opinion sampling."[93] He was the first presidential candidate to employ his own team of pollsters, and when a worried businessman told Dewey in the 1948 presidential campaign that he was losing ground to Truman and urged him to "talk specifics in his closing speeches", Dewey and his aide Paul Lockwood displayed polling data that showed Dewey still well ahead of Truman, and Dewey told the businessman "when you're leading, don't talk."[93]

In 1940, Walter Lippman regarded him as an opportunist, who "changes his views from hour to hour… always more concerned with taking the popular position than he is in dealing with the real issues."[94] The journalist John Gunther wrote that "There are plenty of vain and ambitious and uncharming politicians. This would not be enough to cause Dewey's lack of popularity. What counts more is that so many people think of him as opportunistic. Dewey seldom goes out on a limb by taking a personal position which may be unpopular ... every step is carefully calculated and prepared."

One candidate had an entire entire campaign that was based on scripted talking points and poll-tested memorized statements. That's why e.g. he flipped so quickly on drafting women, for example.

It's actually extremely eerie - one of Dewey's nicknames was 'the little man'.

Who does that remind you of?
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2017, 09:34:28 PM »

Describe which candidate in the 2016 field fits this description:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Dewey

About Dewey -

. He spoke in platitudes, trying to transcend politics. Speech after speech was filled with empty statements of the obvious, such as the famous quote: "You know that your future is still ahead of you." An editorial in the Louisville Courier-Journal summed it up:

No presidential candidate in the future will be so inept that four of his major speeches can be boiled down to these historic four sentences: Agriculture is important. Our rivers are full of fish. You cannot have freedom without liberty. Our future lies ahead......

Dewey's frequent refusal to discuss specific issues and proposals in his campaigns was based partly on his belief in public opinion polls; one biographer claimed that he "had an almost religious belief in the revolutionary science of public-opinion sampling."[93] He was the first presidential candidate to employ his own team of pollsters, and when a worried businessman told Dewey in the 1948 presidential campaign that he was losing ground to Truman and urged him to "talk specifics in his closing speeches", Dewey and his aide Paul Lockwood displayed polling data that showed Dewey still well ahead of Truman, and Dewey told the businessman "when you're leading, don't talk."[93]

In 1940, Walter Lippman regarded him as an opportunist, who "changes his views from hour to hour… always more concerned with taking the popular position than he is in dealing with the real issues."[94] The journalist John Gunther wrote that "There are plenty of vain and ambitious and uncharming politicians. This would not be enough to cause Dewey's lack of popularity. What counts more is that so many people think of him as opportunistic. Dewey seldom goes out on a limb by taking a personal position which may be unpopular ... every step is carefully calculated and prepared."

One candidate had an entire entire campaign that was based on scripted talking points and poll-tested memorized statements. That's why e.g. he flipped so quickly on drafting women, for example.

It's actually extremely eerie - one of Dewey's nicknames was 'the little man'.

Who does that remind you of?
Bernie Sanders. Donald Trump. Not the person you're obviously trying to get us to say.

The steps Trump and Sanders made were calculated and prepared? Everything they did was based on push polling? It's more like they were most the unpredictable candidates that were the least likely to make such calculations.
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2017, 10:00:35 PM »

Describe which candidate in the 2016 field fits this description:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Dewey

About Dewey -

. He spoke in platitudes, trying to transcend politics. Speech after speech was filled with empty statements of the obvious, such as the famous quote: "You know that your future is still ahead of you." An editorial in the Louisville Courier-Journal summed it up:

No presidential candidate in the future will be so inept that four of his major speeches can be boiled down to these historic four sentences: Agriculture is important. Our rivers are full of fish. You cannot have freedom without liberty. Our future lies ahead......

Dewey's frequent refusal to discuss specific issues and proposals in his campaigns was based partly on his belief in public opinion polls; one biographer claimed that he "had an almost religious belief in the revolutionary science of public-opinion sampling."[93] He was the first presidential candidate to employ his own team of pollsters, and when a worried businessman told Dewey in the 1948 presidential campaign that he was losing ground to Truman and urged him to "talk specifics in his closing speeches", Dewey and his aide Paul Lockwood displayed polling data that showed Dewey still well ahead of Truman, and Dewey told the businessman "when you're leading, don't talk."[93]

In 1940, Walter Lippman regarded him as an opportunist, who "changes his views from hour to hour… always more concerned with taking the popular position than he is in dealing with the real issues."[94] The journalist John Gunther wrote that "There are plenty of vain and ambitious and uncharming politicians. This would not be enough to cause Dewey's lack of popularity. What counts more is that so many people think of him as opportunistic. Dewey seldom goes out on a limb by taking a personal position which may be unpopular ... every step is carefully calculated and prepared."

One candidate had an entire entire campaign that was based on scripted talking points and poll-tested memorized statements. That's why e.g. he flipped so quickly on drafting women, for example.

It's actually extremely eerie - one of Dewey's nicknames was 'the little man'.

Who does that remind you of?
Bernie Sanders. Donald Trump. Not the person you're obviously trying to get us to say.

The steps Trump and Sanders made were calculated and prepared? Everything they did was based on push polling? It's more like they were most the unpredictable candidates that were the least likely to make such calculations.
Is there an actual reason for this thread, or are you just trolling for agreement?

The reason is to demonstrate that the 'person' has more historical parallels to Dewey and Dukakis than anyone else.

What is disagreeable about this? Did Trump and Sanders not go out of their way to be offensive in almost every speech they made (they exact opposite approach)?
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