Ralph Nader: The Democrats are unable to defend the US (user search)
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dead0man
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« on: June 25, 2017, 09:27:55 PM »
« edited: June 25, 2017, 10:15:14 PM by dead0man »

No, third parties like in 2000 and in 16 took away the Dems chances for victory, that's the fact.
You nominate sh**tty candidates (one time hacking the system to get it done) and people that would vote for you, that gladly voted for Bill and Obama twice in spite of all their faults, vote third party and you blame the voters?
Instead of saying that, they campaign by saying “Can you believe how bad the Republicans are?” Now once they say that, they trap their progressive wing, because their progressive wing is the only segment that’s going to change the party to be a more formidable opponent. Because they say to their progressive wing, “You’ve got nowhere to go, get off our back.”

And this went right into the scapegoating of the last twenty years. “Oh, it’s Nader, oh, it’s the Koch Brothers, oh, it’s the electoral college, oh, it’s misogyny, oh, it’s redneck deplorables.” They never look at themselves in the mirror.

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[Another] millstone is: Nobody gets fired. They have defeat after defeat, and they can’t replace their defeated compadres with new, vigorous, energetic people. Labor unions, the same thing. They [stay in positions] into their eighties no matter how screwed up the union is. You don’t get fired no matter how big the loss is, unlike in the business community, where you get fired.
A lot of what Nader said is nonsense or already "known", but these last bits rings true to me.  You nominated someone so horrible Donald Freakin' Trump won.  There is plenty of blame to go around for that, but you can't see that a huge part of it was how garbage Hillary was then this kind of thing is just going to keep happening.  Every time you have nobody around that can fake integrity as good as Obama and Bill did you're going to lose, sometimes to someone as sh**tty as Trump (because the GOP sucks too).
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