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« Reply #75 on: June 28, 2017, 04:59:04 PM »

i have a few questions for everyone running to be chair

1. Considering the recent failure of the party and, can you describe your broad strategy to bring the party back together and start winning national elections again?  Its probably best to focus on the latter, since thats both the primary point of a mass party and your primary job in your position.

2.  You're running to chair a party that claims to be a socialist party.  Could you therefore describe what socialism means to you?
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« Reply #76 on: June 28, 2017, 05:41:53 PM »

i have a few questions for everyone running to be chair

1. Considering the recent failure of the party and, can you describe your broad strategy to bring the party back together and start winning national elections again?  Its probably best to focus on the latter, since thats both the primary point of a mass party and your primary job in your position.

2.  You're running to chair a party that claims to be a socialist party.  Could you therefore describe what socialism means to you?
1)
Well, it seems to me that the biggest problem Labor is facing is that many elected officeholders left recently the party, which means this party is in a shortage of officeholders, and if that doesn't change, this party is going to die.
When I was running labor with Griffin 2 years ago, I was fairly good at recruiting people. I literally successfully invaded the most rightwing region in the game at this time (Mideast), transforming it into a safe Labor region. Many current players have been recruited by me, I'm thinking of for example Blair and Clyde.

So my main priority is to recruit new members to this party, and as well candidates for local and national offices. The presidential election isn't a priority yet as it is in four months, but of course it's going be an important battle.

Labor lost this presidential election not because the candidates didn't campaign as Clyde indeed sent many PMs, but more because of a lack of strategy and coordination. If elected chairman, I would obviously pledge assistance to any labor candidates the party would nominate, and to help them win. I know how to win tough races as for example 3 years ago I won a presidential election against someone who was endorsed by literally every party but labor.

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Regarding your second point,
In order to be strong, the Labor party needs to be a center-left to far-left party, so at the same time center-left liberals and "socialists" need to feel at home in this party. If the center-left liberals don't support labor, we lose because of a lack of majority, and if the "socialists" go third party or bust, well, we would lack votes as well and a divided left is a weak left.
I don't think the chair of Labor should matter more than the members of this party individually. The Chair has the role of a strategist, an administrator, not a ideologue. The Labor party platform must be made by all the current members.

But I believe some want  to know what my ideology is. Well, I guess the best to describe it is to describe what I sponsored/passed as Local Representative/Senator/Governor:
- I eliminated the most regressive tax: the sales tax that was hurting the poors the most. I eliminated as well the income tax on the poorest.
- In the Midwest, I made college tuition free.
- I passed some pro environment bills: tax credit for the development of renewable energy,...
-Families got as well some help in term of child allowance with me, important to make sure anyone can afford starting a new family.

Etc etc
I have serious leftwing credentials,  but again if elected chair I don't plan to influence that much on the platform/ideology of the Labor Party, as I believe it's something everyone should equally contribute.
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« Reply #77 on: June 28, 2017, 08:52:40 PM »

i have a few questions for everyone running to be chair

1. Considering the recent failure of the party and, can you describe your broad strategy to bring the party back together and start winning national elections again?  Its probably best to focus on the latter, since thats both the primary point of a mass party and your primary job in your position.

2.  You're running to chair a party that claims to be a socialist party.  Could you therefore describe what socialism means to you?

Yes, that's right, I'm completely serious about accepting write-in votes for chair.

1. My goal as chair would be to dissolve the labor party. Enough Said.

2. Socialism is the promotion of ideas that destroy one or more private industries or otherwise aim to take a nation away from capitalism. This includes everything from a single payer health care system (destroys health insurance industry), to overregulation of business creation, to (near-)abolishment of the private sector.
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« Reply #78 on: June 28, 2017, 09:52:00 PM »

Well, Brutus, thou art noble; yet, I see,
Thy honourable metal may be wrought
From that it is disposed: therefore it is meet
That noble minds keep ever with their likes;
For who so firm that cannot be seduced?
Caesar doth bear me hard; but he loves Brutus:
If I were Brutus now and he were Cassius,
He should not humour me. I will this night,
In several hands, in at his windows throw,
As if they came from several citizens,
Writings all tending to the great opinion
That Rome holds of his name; wherein obscurely
Caesar's ambition shall be glanced at:
And after this let Caesar seat him sure;
For we will shake him, or worse days endure.
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« Reply #79 on: June 28, 2017, 10:09:06 PM »

I literally successfully invaded the most rightwing region in the game at this time (Mideast), transforming it into a safe Labor region.


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« Reply #80 on: June 28, 2017, 11:13:49 PM »

Well, Brutus, thou art noble; yet, I see,
Thy honourable metal may be wrought
From that it is disposed: therefore it is meet
That noble minds keep ever with their likes;
For who so firm that cannot be seduced?
Caesar doth bear me hard; but he loves Brutus:
If I were Brutus now and he were Cassius,
He should not humour me. I will this night,
In several hands, in at his windows throw,
As if they came from several citizens,
Writings all tending to the great opinion
That Rome holds of his name; wherein obscurely
Caesar's ambition shall be glanced at:
And after this let Caesar seat him sure;
For we will shake him, or worse days endure.
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« Reply #81 on: June 28, 2017, 11:27:09 PM »

That was almost a clever comeback, but you ruined it by choosing the wrong speech. Sad
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« Reply #82 on: June 29, 2017, 11:51:26 AM »

I literally successfully invaded the most rightwing region in the game at this time (Mideast), transforming it into a safe Labor region.


Angry Lock him up!
Although to be honest, that was made possible by 2 things:
-the destruction of the Zuwo machine by tmthforu
- the total incompetence of Riley Keaton as governor who really stroke the decisive blow to the right in this region.
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« Reply #83 on: June 29, 2017, 05:59:30 PM »

Alright! The period for nominations having expired, we will now proceed to a vote. Only persons who (a) are registered members of the Labor Party; and (b) were registered members of the Labor Party at the time this thread was opened are eligible to vote in this election. Please note that write-in votes will only be counted if the recipient publicly declares their intention to accept said votes, and only if they are eligible to vote for themselves. The election will last 48 hours.


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JUNE-JULY 2017

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[   ] Tim Turner of the South
[   ] Windjammer of Fremont
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« Reply #84 on: June 29, 2017, 06:01:18 PM »

LABOR PARTY OF ATLASIA
EMERGENCY LEADERSHIP ELECTION
JUNE-JULY 2017

FOR CHAIR
[2] Tim Turner of the South
[1] Windjammer of Fremont
[   ] Write-in :
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« Reply #85 on: June 29, 2017, 06:04:35 PM »

LABOR PARTY OF ATLASIA
EMERGENCY LEADERSHIP ELECTION
JUNE-JULY 2017

FOR CHAIR
[1] TimTurner of the South
[  ] Windjammer of Fremont
[2] Write-in: Peebs of the South
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« Reply #86 on: June 29, 2017, 06:10:28 PM »


LABOR PARTY OF ATLASIA
EMERGENCY LEADERSHIP ELECTION
JUNE-JULY 2017

FOR CHAIR
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[ 1 ] Windjammer of Fremont
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« Reply #87 on: June 29, 2017, 06:14:28 PM »


LABOR PARTY OF ATLASIA
EMERGENCY LEADERSHIP ELECTION
JUNE-JULY 2017

FOR CHAIR
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[ 1 ] Windjammer of Fremont
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« Reply #88 on: June 29, 2017, 06:18:27 PM »

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JUNE-JULY 2017

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[ 2 ] Tim Turner of the South
[ 1 ] Windjammer of Fremont
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« Reply #89 on: June 29, 2017, 06:21:18 PM »


LABOR PARTY OF ATLASIA
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« Reply #90 on: June 29, 2017, 06:40:11 PM »

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« Reply #91 on: June 29, 2017, 06:41:00 PM »

LABOR PARTY OF ATLASIA
EMERGENCY LEADERSHIP ELECTION
JUNE-JULY 2017

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[ 1 ] Tim Turner of the South
[ 2 ] Windjammer of Fremont
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« Reply #92 on: June 29, 2017, 07:26:26 PM »

I have a question before we vote. Mr. Windjammer, as the current Chief Justice, will you resign your post on the Supreme Court is you become a partisan official?
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« Reply #93 on: June 29, 2017, 07:29:16 PM »

I have a question before we vote. Mr. Windjammer, as the current Chief Justice, will you resign your post on the Supreme Court is you become a partisan official?
No
Oakvale was Justice and chair of the TPP, Yankee was Justice and chair of the feds and it didn't bother anyone.
I don't plan to be chair for a long period anyway, just to fix some things and go back to retirement (if elected of course!)
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« Reply #94 on: June 29, 2017, 07:31:13 PM »

LABOR PARTY OF ATLASIA
EMERGENCY LEADERSHIP ELECTION
JUNE-JULY 2017

FOR CHAIR
[ 3 ] Tim Turner of the South
[ 4 ] Windjammer of Fremont
[ 1 ] Write-in: rpryor of Fremont
[ 2] Write-in: Peebs of the South
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« Reply #95 on: June 29, 2017, 08:54:52 PM »

1. Windjammer
2. Tim Turner
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« Reply #96 on: June 29, 2017, 09:19:18 PM »
« Edited: June 29, 2017, 09:23:23 PM by Delegate West_Midlander »

I have a question before we vote. Mr. Windjammer, as the current Chief Justice, will you resign your post on the Supreme Court is you become a partisan official?
No
Oakvale was Justice and chair of the TPP, Yankee was Justice and chair of the feds and it didn't bother anyone.
I don't plan to be chair for a long period anyway, just to fix some things and go back to retirement (if elected of course!)
Good answer. It aggravated me so much IRL when Ellison promised to leave the House if he became chair (after asked/pressured if he would), while Corporate Dems had no problem w/ Debbie Wasserman Schultz holding a House seat & the DNC Chair-ship. (He and the asker are at fault FWIW, they gave him a loaded, hypocritical question, and he just bent to their will).
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« Reply #97 on: June 29, 2017, 09:29:35 PM »

I have a question before we vote. Mr. Windjammer, as the current Chief Justice, will you resign your post on the Supreme Court is you become a partisan official?
No
Oakvale was Justice and chair of the TPP, Yankee was Justice and chair of the feds and it didn't bother anyone.
I don't plan to be chair for a long period anyway, just to fix some things and go back to retirement (if elected of course!)
Good answer. It aggravated me so much IRL when Ellison promised to leave the House if he became chair (after asked/pressured if he would), while Corporate Dems had no problem w/ Debbie Wasserman Schultz holding a House seat & the DNC Chair-ship. (He and the asker are at fault FWIW, they gave him a loaded, hypocritical question, and he just bent to their will).
I'm curious,
You seem to support the Sanders faction, so you are not a moderate and clearly a very leftwing progressive.

So why did you join a party who is ideologically a center-right party with some center left liberals?
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« Reply #98 on: June 29, 2017, 09:36:42 PM »

I have a question before we vote. Mr. Windjammer, as the current Chief Justice, will you resign your post on the Supreme Court is you become a partisan official?
No
Oakvale was Justice and chair of the TPP, Yankee was Justice and chair of the feds and it didn't bother anyone.
I don't plan to be chair for a long period anyway, just to fix some things and go back to retirement (if elected of course!)
Good answer. It aggravated me so much IRL when Ellison promised to leave the House if he became chair (after asked/pressured if he would), while Corporate Dems had no problem w/ Debbie Wasserman Schultz holding a House seat & the DNC Chair-ship. (He and the asker are at fault FWIW, they gave him a loaded, hypocritical question, and he just bent to their will).
I'm curious,
You seem to support the Sanders faction, so you are not a moderate and clearly a very leftwing progressive.

So why did you join a party who is ideologically a center-right party with some center left liberals?
The Old Guard of the Party had been, when I joined as very much so prior, orthodox in promoting a continuous adherence to 'party policy' among party-members, imo. Though it seems that era may have died alongside Nev's activity in Atlasia.
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« Reply #99 on: June 29, 2017, 09:42:05 PM »

I have a question before we vote. Mr. Windjammer, as the current Chief Justice, will you resign your post on the Supreme Court is you become a partisan official?
No
Oakvale was Justice and chair of the TPP, Yankee was Justice and chair of the feds and it didn't bother anyone.
I don't plan to be chair for a long period anyway, just to fix some things and go back to retirement (if elected of course!)
Good answer. It aggravated me so much IRL when Ellison promised to leave the House if he became chair (after asked/pressured if he would), while Corporate Dems had no problem w/ Debbie Wasserman Schultz holding a House seat & the DNC Chair-ship. (He and the asker are at fault FWIW, they gave him a loaded, hypocritical question, and he just bent to their will).
I'm curious,
You seem to support the Sanders faction, so you are not a moderate and clearly a very leftwing progressive.

So why did you join a party who is ideologically a center-right party with some center left liberals?
The Old Guard of the Party had been, when I joined as very much so prior, orthodox in promoting a continuous adherence to 'party policy' among party-members, imo. Though it seems that era may have died alongside Nev's activity in Atlasia.
That doesn't explain why you have joined a center right party.
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