California assembly leader shelves single payer bill

[Matty]

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-assembly-speaker-calls-single-payer-1498261105-htmlstory.html

 

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Don't know if it is tongue in cheek or not, but some media folks on the twitter are saying this is a polite way of saying "good try"

[SoLongAtlas]

I read that it didn't include a funding mechanism in the language of the Senate bill, not sure if the Assembly bill did or not. Any sane speaker would table or gov would veto in this was the case, even if the end goal is meritable.

[user12345]

Good. The bill wasn't ready for prime time.

[Sumner 1868]

It can only happen on the federal level.

[Antonio the Sixth]

It can only happen on the federal level.

Sad! but true.

No it's not. California's GDP and population are large enough that single-payer could work very well if done right. It just seems that people don't want it bad enough to actually work out the details.

[Mr. Smith]

It can only happen on the federal level.

Sad! but true.

No it's not. California's GDP and population are large enough that single-payer could work very well if done right. It just seems that people don't want it bad enough to actually work out the details.

[KingSweden]

I read that it didn't include a funding mechanism in the language of the Senate bill, not sure if the Assembly bill did or not. Any sane speaker would table or gov would veto in this was the case, even if the end goal is meritable.

[Storebought]

Universal health care, through single payer or any other mechanism, is simply not a priority for the Democratic Party now. And why not?

(1) no party constituency is demanding universal health coverage
(2) no liberal or left-wing think tanks, lobbyists, unions, etc. have come up with any viable strategy to implement a federalized single payer system
(3) Democratic party members at any level of elected government are not eager to attempt to "reform" health care to their electoral demise for the third time in thirty years.

The current quality/level of coverage/access to insurance through Obamacare exchanges and the Medicaid expansion suits the Democrats just fine for now.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Universal health care, through single payer or any other mechanism, is simply not a priority for the Democratic Party now. And why not?

(1) no party constituency is demanding universal health coverage
(2) no liberal or left-wing think tanks, lobbyists, unions, etc. have come up with any viable strategy to implement a federalized single payer system
(3) Democratic party members at any level of elected government are not eager to attempt to "reform" health care to their electoral demise for the third time in thirty years.

The current quality/level of coverage/access to insurance through Obamacare exchanges and the Medicaid expansion suits the Democrats just fine for now.

I hate to sound like a Republican, but the exchanges part of Obamacare is fundamentally flawed and will eventually collapse on its own weight if radical changes aren't made to it. One such radical change is single-payer, and chances are it would solve the problem more definitively than any other proposal.

(Note that I don't even like single-payer that much. The French system has serious issues for example. An NHS-type model would be infinitely preferable, but that is probably out of reach for the US in the foreseeable future.)

[President Johnson]

It will happen under Governor Gavin Newsom.

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It will happen under Governor Gavin Newsom.

Oh yes, the brave Gavin Newsom whom after media was railing against HSR that the voters had voted for decided that it most be unpopular, and announced that he was opposed. And then a poll came out where the public was still in favor of the HSR that they had voted for, and he switched back to supporting it.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Something something kids dying in the street something something moral right to health-care something something genocide. Oh wait, it was the democrats who failed to implement this so never mind with the hyperbole.

[Intell]

Something something kids dying in the street something something moral right to health-care something something genocide. Oh wait, it was the democrats who failed to implement this so never mind with the hyperbole.

And the democrats are letting kids die on the streets, I don't see why that's hard to admit. If a republicans wants to kill 100 through lack of healthcare, democrats just want 50 killed because they're moderate heroes.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Sh-t like this is why we need "purity tests". What a disgusting excuse for a left-wing party.

Purity tests are dumb and always will be.

[TheSaint250]

Sh-t like this is why we need "purity tests".

This is why nothing gets done in Washington

[Yank2133]

People might want to read this thread on why it was shelved before bitching about Democrats not being liberal enough.

https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/878474055233523712

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Praise the Lord!

[publicunofficial]

Sh-t like this is why we need "purity tests". What a disgusting excuse for a left-wing party.

Purity tests are dumb and always will be.

Any Democrat that receives half a million in campaign contributions from the healthcare industry and subsequently sabotages a plan for single-payer deserves to be thrown out of office. I don't see how this could possibly be a controversial assertion.

Support for single payer should absolutely be a purity test.

[RI]

People might want to read this thread on why it was shelved before bitching about Democrats not being liberal enough.

https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/878474055233523712

I can't see single-payer surviving long in a state like CA (or WA) where voters can directly decide tax policy.

[publicunofficial]

People might want to read this thread on why it was shelved before bitching about Democrats not being liberal enough.

https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/878474055233523712

I can't see single-payer surviving long in a state like CA (or WA) where voters can directly decide tax policy.

Any plan to implement single-payer in WA would have to involve throwing Tim Eyman into the trunk of a car and driving it into the Puget Sound.

[An American Tail: Fubart Goes West]

It will happen under Governor Gavin Newsom.

Oh yes, the brave Gavin Newsom whom after media was railing against HSR that the voters had voted for decided that it most be unpopular, and announced that he was opposed. And then a poll came out where the public was still in favor of the HSR that they had voted for, and he switched back to supporting it.

Chiang 2018

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Why do I get the feeling that the #TrueLeftists would whine if a universal healthcare method that wasn't single payer was settled on by the party...

Also

Sh-t like this is why we need "purity tests". What a disgusting excuse for a left-wing party.

Purity tests are dumb and always will be.

They tend to lead to representatives that are so afraid of the extremists in their own party that they won't vote against things that are horrible and insane. Look at what the tea party did to the functionality of government in congress.

[Bojack Horseman]

It's not like Brown would have signed this anyway.