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vanguard96
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« on: June 28, 2017, 10:38:32 AM »

Yep, this reeks of a false flag operation. I can't wait for certain posters (well, maybe just one by this point) to defend Maduro yet again Roll Eyes

Even Chomsky has long ago washed his hands of Venezuela's regime. I believe only a few diehards are left over - maybe Sean Penn and Danny Glover and a few hardcore academic and online leftists who blame it all on Western imperialism.

False flag or not the majority of people are against what is happening. The government's response has only served to worsen the situation - stalling the process for referendum, removing power of the assembly, demonetization, forced labor, price fixing, 320% increase in min wage, police corruption, arrest of dissidents and rivals.
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2017, 12:25:27 PM »

Yep, this reeks of a false flag operation. I can't wait for certain posters (well, maybe just one by this point) to defend Maduro yet again Roll Eyes

Even Chomsky has long ago washed his hands of Venezuela's regime. I believe only a few diehards are left over - maybe Sean Penn and Danny Glover and a few hardcore academic and online leftists who blame it all on Western imperialism.

False flag or not the majority of people are against what is happening. The government's response has only served to worsen the situation - stalling the process for referendum, removing power of the assembly, demonetization, forced labor, price fixing, 320% increase in min wage, police corruption, arrest of dissidents and rivals.

I hate to say it, but a coup may be the only realistic option at this point.


Maduro is in another world thinking the US would try to stop a coup against his regime? Seriously, when he's also saying at the same time that the CIA was behind helping his rivals? A leftist dictator like him saying that about Trump of all people with their regime change history and longtime anti-socialist tendencies? Pure delusion.

https://panampost.com/pedro-garcia/2017/06/28/pilot-hijacks-helicopter-in-venezuela-fires-on-supreme-court-and-ministry-of-interior/

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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2017, 07:47:06 AM »

LOL at all the posters that seem right out of the Bush administration CIA in 2002. "We can just have a coup in Venezuela since no one there really likes their President."

I mean the difference now is that Maduro is actually unpopular.

There are so many regimes worse than Maduro I don't see how anyone really supports intervening to overthrow him. I would prefer to live in Venezuela over Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Syria, for instance.

The biggest thing is how far they have fallen. Venezuela used to be one of the most  prosperous countries in South America. It now has the highest murder rate in the world and tons of corruption.

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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2017, 09:27:17 AM »

The biggest thing is how far they have fallen. Venezuela used to be one of the most  prosperous countries in South America. It now has the highest murder rate in the world and tons of corruption.
Well, they used to be free...since I still had the Freedom House spreadsheet open I looked 'em up.  In 1972 they had a 2/2 (political rights/civil liberties...lower is better 1-7 range) rating.  On par with Finland, Fiji and Lebanon.  And not too far behind Ireland and Italy's 1/2 and Japan's 2/1.  Way better than Spain and S.Korea (5/5) and Brazil (5/6).  In '98 when Chavez came to power they still were pretty good at 2/3.  By 2011 they had fallen to a 5/5.  5/6 last year, which would look fine if they were in Africa, but the numbers look out of place compared to the rest of the western hemisphere (except Cuba of course 7/6).

Fraser Institute's Human Freedom Index Rating on the following Categories:
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/human-freedom-index-2016
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Bolded Venezuela and two other S. American nations - Chile and Brazil.

2008
Venezuela 135th
Personal 6.17, Economic 4.30 Human Freedom 5.24 Rule of Law 3.10, Security & Safety 6.67
2010
Venezuela 149th
Personal 6.17, Economic 4.01 Human Freedom 5.09 Rule of Law 3.10, Security & Safety 6.00
2012
Venezuela 143rd
Personal 6.59, Economic 3.88 Human Freedom 5.24 Rule of Law 2.45 Security & Safety 6.33
2014
Venezuela 154th
Personal 6.53, Economic 3.29, Human Freedom 4.91, Rule of Law 2.21, Security & Safety 6.33

From 2008 Rule of Law has Degraded by almost a full point and was the world's worst with the war torn Central African Republic, DR Congo and Libya all ahead of it.

It shares the lowest possible score for homicide with S. Africa, Lesotho, Colombia, Belize, Jamaica, Honduras, Guatemala, and Trinidad & Tobago.

In the Heritage / Wall Street Journal rankings of Economic Freedom Venezuela ranks 2nd from bottom ahead of only N. Korea which is not ranked by the Fraser Institute. Iraq, Libya, Lichtenstein, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen are not ranked.

Under the Rule of Law Category:
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http://www.heritage.org/index/country/venezuela

http://www.heritage.org/index/visualize?cnts=venezuela|chile&src=country

This graph tracks that Venezuela was at 59.8% in 1995, 57.4 in 2000, 47.9 in 2007, 36.1 in 2013 (the year of Chavez's death), and now 27.0 in 2017. In the region only Barbados and The Bahamas had a larger drop from 2016 to 2017. Cuba actually rose 4.1 points...

Congrats Mr. Maduro - you are worse than the next Castro.

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