Do you miss President Obama?

[Gracile]

No, and I wish the Democrats would just move on from his presidency.

[PSOL]

Nope

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

No, and I wish the Democrats would just move on from his presidency.

Well this thread originally was run in mid-2017, when it made much more sense to ask the question. I don't know why it was bumped today.

[Gracile]

No, and I wish the Democrats would just move on from his presidency.

Well this thread originally was run in mid-2017, when it made much more sense to ask the question. I don't know why it was bumped today.

I still see this sentiment among Democrats today.

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

No, and I wish the Democrats would just move on from his presidency.

Well this thread originally was run in mid-2017, when it made much more sense to ask the question. I don't know why it was bumped today.

I still see this sentiment among Democrats today.

I understand, and I agree that it's an unproductive sentiment.

[VBM]

No. If Obama was more competent, we would have had DC statehood, PR statehood, and legalized weed right now. Obama spent too much time trying to be BFFs with Republicans because he wanted to be remembered as a bipartisan hero

[Alben Barkley]

No. If Obama was more competent, we would have had DC statehood, PR statehood, and legalized weed right now. Obama spent too much time trying to be BFFs with Republicans because he wanted to be remembered as a bipartisan hero

This is utterly absurd to the point of laughable. Every part of it is painfully wrong. And so obviously ahistorical and inconsistent with the (still pretty recent) facts and objective reality I lived through that I have to wonder if you are like 10 years old or were living under a rock during his entire presidency.

Obama had to fight tooth and nail just to get healthcare passed while he still had Congress. After he pulled that off, he lost control of Congress because leftists thought they didn’t have to show up to vote anymore. Then he was faced with one of the most obstructionist Congresses in history that openly admitted their only objective was to prevent him from doing anything. His only choice was to try to work with them, but they refused. Then ignorant leftists like you wrongly blamed OBAMA for this instead of the Republicans, so you once again didn’t show up to vote and things got even worse. Then you used “Obama didn’t get everything I wanted done!” as an excuse to not vote AGAIN in 2016 and let Trump get elected. Blaming Democrats for not being able to get anything done because you didn’t show up to vote was a vicious cycle that compounded on itself. I can only hope now some people are starting to snap out of it.

Honestly, these constant ridiculous criticisms from leftists, combined with your apparent belief that Bernie could have gotten extremely ambitious and vague policies passed easily by waving a magic wand (certainly no other explanation given), really make me question how much you people even understand about how the government actually works at all. Newsflash: The president isn’t a dictator who is elected every 4 years and granted unlimited powers to do whatever he wants during that time. Even the UK system is closer to that than ours. Here, you have to remain constantly engaged and constantly deal with the other side. And when people don’t understand that so they don’t vote to give their side a majority while the other side is totally uncooperative, you get the gridlock that characterized much of Obama’s years.

[HillGoose]

yes, big time.

he had such a nice and respectable family, and he was a competent leader who didn’t cause our nation to resemble a third world banana republic.

[Mr. Smith]

Yes, but that was the only outcome regardless of whom won last year.

Likely to still be true...even if Sanders won.

[VBM]

No. If Obama was more competent, we would have had DC statehood, PR statehood, and legalized weed right now. Obama spent too much time trying to be BFFs with Republicans because he wanted to be remembered as a bipartisan hero

This is utterly absurd to the point of laughable. Every part of it is painfully wrong. And so obviously ahistorical and inconsistent with the (still pretty recent) facts and objective reality I lived through that I have to wonder if you are like 10 years old or were living under a rock during his entire presidency.

Obama had to fight tooth and nail just to get healthcare passed while he still had Congress. After he pulled that off, he lost control of Congress because leftists thought they didn’t have to show up to vote anymore. Then he was faced with one of the most obstructionist Congresses in history that openly admitted their only objective was to prevent him from doing anything. His only choice was to try to work with them, but they refused. Then ignorant leftists like you wrongly blamed OBAMA for this instead of the Republicans, so you once again didn’t show up to vote and things got even worse. Then you used “Obama didn’t get everything I wanted done!” as an excuse to not vote AGAIN in 2016 and let Trump get elected. Blaming Democrats for not being able to get anything done because you didn’t show up to vote was a vicious cycle that compounded on itself. I can only hope now some people are starting to snap out of it.

Honestly, these constant ridiculous criticisms from leftists, combined with your apparent belief that Bernie could have gotten extremely ambitious and vague policies passed easily by waving a magic wand (certainly no other explanation given), really make me question how much you people even understand about how the government actually works at all. Newsflash: The president isn’t a dictator who is elected every 4 years and granted unlimited powers to do whatever he wants during that time. Even the UK system is closer to that than ours. Here, you have to remain constantly engaged and constantly deal with the other side. And when people don’t understand that so they don’t vote to give their side a majority while the other side is totally uncooperative, you get the gridlock that characterized much of Obama’s years.

Explain why Obama couldn’t get DC or PR statehood, despite having a supermajority or nearly a supermajority, when there’s actually a legit chance that Democrats can now get those two states ratified despite only having a very narrow House majority and only 50 Senators

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

No. If Obama was more competent, we would have had DC statehood, PR statehood, and legalized weed right now. Obama spent too much time trying to be BFFs with Republicans because he wanted to be remembered as a bipartisan hero

This is utterly absurd to the point of laughable. Every part of it is painfully wrong. And so obviously ahistorical and inconsistent with the (still pretty recent) facts and objective reality I lived through that I have to wonder if you are like 10 years old or were living under a rock during his entire presidency.

Obama had to fight tooth and nail just to get healthcare passed while he still had Congress. After he pulled that off, he lost control of Congress because leftists thought they didn’t have to show up to vote anymore. Then he was faced with one of the most obstructionist Congresses in history that openly admitted their only objective was to prevent him from doing anything. His only choice was to try to work with them, but they refused. Then ignorant leftists like you wrongly blamed OBAMA for this instead of the Republicans, so you once again didn’t show up to vote and things got even worse. Then you used “Obama didn’t get everything I wanted done!” as an excuse to not vote AGAIN in 2016 and let Trump get elected. Blaming Democrats for not being able to get anything done because you didn’t show up to vote was a vicious cycle that compounded on itself. I can only hope now some people are starting to snap out of it.

Honestly, these constant ridiculous criticisms from leftists, combined with your apparent belief that Bernie could have gotten extremely ambitious and vague policies passed easily by waving a magic wand (certainly no other explanation given), really make me question how much you people even understand about how the government actually works at all. Newsflash: The president isn’t a dictator who is elected every 4 years and granted unlimited powers to do whatever he wants during that time. Even the UK system is closer to that than ours. Here, you have to remain constantly engaged and constantly deal with the other side. And when people don’t understand that so they don’t vote to give their side a majority while the other side is totally uncooperative, you get the gridlock that characterized much of Obama’s years.

Explain why Obama couldn’t get DC or PR statehood, despite having a supermajority or nearly a supermajority, when there’s actually a legit chance that Democrats can now get those two states ratified despite only having a very narrow House majority and only 50 Senators

But Joe Lieberman.

Please don't check and notice that Lieberman was one of the biggest DC statehood proponents. We need to blame everything on him.

[Chips]

Nah, Despite Trump being worse I still think Obama was pretty bad.