When and Where the anticapitalist left wins a election?, national level
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FrancoAgo
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« on: July 06, 2017, 01:53:34 AM »

As for the subject When and Where the anticapitalist left wins a election? at national level, i'm not talking winning a college but winning the majority of the chamber, enough majority for the control of the chamber.

anticapitalist left for their own paper position, also if in the facts they are not anticapitalist.
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2017, 01:55:19 AM »

PODEMOS in Spain or Sinn Fein in Ireland. Probably nowhere else.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2017, 01:58:09 AM »
« Edited: July 06, 2017, 02:01:18 AM by Hifly »

This will never happen in the continent, because people of that ilk are generally too ignorant and removed from the demographics they seek to represent to win over their votes.

At a stretch, Syriza's victory could come close to this but that was simply the product of a sh**tty electoral system. They've managed to piss everyone off and therefore won't win the next election, thankfully.

I wonder what the American posters will think?
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2017, 06:31:27 AM »

Syriza already did this in Greece.

Chavez was anticapitalist left, and his party won some elections fair and square, though less so as time went on.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2017, 07:48:24 AM »

Syriza already did this in Greece.

Syriza were not standing on leaving the EU, and therefore could not be categorised as a victory for anti-capitalism.
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2017, 08:45:12 AM »

Syriza already did this in Greece.

Syriza were not standing on leaving the EU, and therefore could not be categorised as a victory for anti-capitalism.

No true socialist, amiright?
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2017, 08:51:10 AM »

Syriza already did this in Greece.

Syriza were not standing on leaving the EU, and therefore could not be categorised as a victory for anti-capitalism.

No true socialist, amiright?

What? Syriza are socialists, absolutely, but conditions weren't right for an anticapitalist platform and they never stood on one.
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2017, 09:39:48 AM »

PTB may become the largest party in Wallonia.
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2017, 09:48:48 AM »
« Edited: July 06, 2017, 09:52:53 AM by tack50 »

PODEMOS in Spain or Sinn Fein in Ireland. Probably nowhere else.

Not quite in Podemos' case. They don't control any regional assembly. In fact they aren't even the official opposition anywhere in the country! Even Cs has one place where they are the main opposition (Catalonia)

You could argue that Podemos is the true leaders of the opposition nationally since they did not support Rajoy while PSOE abstained, but since Sánchez won and they've moved to the left and stopped all support towards Rajoy that argument is hard to make.

For all what's worth they are in control of many of the largest mayors in the country. Of the 10 most populated cities, they hold 3: (Madrid, Barcelona and Zaragoza). However even in those 3, they weren't the largest party in either Madrid (PP had 34.6% and 21 councillors, Podemos had 31.9% and 20 councillors) or Zaragoza (PP had 26.9% and 10 councillors, Podemos had 24.6% and 9 councillors).

They only really "won" in Barcelona (Podemos got 25.2% and 11 councillors, CiU got 22.7% and 10 councillors)

Also OP said he wanted to exclude towns or something like that.
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2017, 10:27:38 AM »

usa in 08 and 12
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2017, 10:38:44 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2017, 11:37:47 AM »

Being "anticapitalist" is fairly meaningless without a replacement in mind.
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2017, 11:44:32 AM »

VdB won ... and (later on) he was against TTIP and CETA.

Does this count ?
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2017, 11:51:42 AM »

The Italian and French Communist parties had majorities in the 40's and 50's if I remember correctly
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2017, 12:00:15 PM »

The Italian and French Communist parties had majorities in the 40's and 50's if I remember correctly

Majorities? lolno. Cold War history would have turned out very differently if they did...
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2017, 12:41:31 PM »

I've checked the suggestion:
Nepal
In the constituent assembly elections of 08, there were around 8 communist parties they got 370 of 601 seats.

Greece
Syriza get 149 seats of 300 in the january '15 elections an other 15 seats were got from the KKE
in the following september elections Syriza get 145 seats, the KKE was stable on 15
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2017, 06:25:26 PM »

Syriza already did this in Greece.

Syriza were not standing on leaving the EU, and therefore could not be categorised as a victory for anti-capitalism.

The far left is pro-open borders so if you're asking when will an anti-trade far left party come to power in a democratic nation, the answer is never because they don't exist anymore.
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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2017, 06:05:33 AM »

Syriza already did this in Greece.

Syriza were not standing on leaving the EU, and therefore could not be categorised as a victory for anti-capitalism.

The far left is pro-open borders so if you're asking when will an anti-trade far left party come to power in a democratic nation, the answer is never because they don't exist anymore.

north korea

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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2017, 08:20:57 AM »

Syriza already did this in Greece.

Syriza were not standing on leaving the EU, and therefore could not be categorised as a victory for anti-capitalism.

The far left is pro-open borders so if you're asking when will an anti-trade far left party come to power in a democratic nation, the answer is never because they don't exist anymore.

north korea



He said democratic. Although the Democratic People's Republic of Korea does have the word democratic in it so I guess it counts Tongue
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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2017, 09:02:12 AM »

A long shot : MORENA in Mexico?
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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2017, 03:44:20 PM »

I think the PAIS Alliance (Rafael Correa's party) has a majority of seats in the legislature in Ecuador. But since this thread is full of no-true-socialist-ing (and blithely attempting to distinguish socialism from anti-capitalism on the basis of open borders?), who knows if Correa counts as "anticapitalist left."
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2017, 03:49:27 PM »

The trouble is, anticapitalist is a fairly broad brush. You could include classic Communist Party Of... parties that descend from the Comintern era, that have often reached power in places like Kerala, West Bengal, Nepal, San Marino etc. but I associate anticapitalism with other groups tbh not associated with Popular Frontism.
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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2017, 07:37:14 PM »

PODEMOS in Spain or Sinn Fein in Ireland. Probably nowhere else.
Unidos Podemos will never win. They're seen as a cult for their leader Pablo Iglesias now. They missed their chance in 2015 and 2016. PSOE is surging back.
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2017, 10:18:58 PM »

Quebec Solidaire under Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois?
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« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2017, 04:13:43 AM »

reading some of the replies i think that i did some wrongs in the question
my demand is on when and where the anticapitalist left had wins the elections not on will wins.

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