Trump Jr./Russian lawyer meeting: Jr. knew info was part of Russian Gov effort

[EnglishPete]

This could end-up becoming a big revelation for Mueller and his investigation.
Hopefully 1 or all 3 of them get the slammer !

Why stop at prison? Why not something more traditional?

[Virginiá]

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/341372-gop-rep-i-would-have-met-with-russian-national-for-opposition-research

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Translation: I have no principles and of course in politics you want to win at any cost, even if that means colluding with the enemy.

Rep. Yoho, from the party of the self-proclaimed "patriots"

[EnglishPete]

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/341372-gop-rep-i-would-have-met-with-russian-national-for-opposition-research

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Translation: I have no principles and of course in politics you want to win at any cost, even if that means colluding with the enemy.

Rep. Yoho, from the party of the self-proclaimed "patriots"

Its terrible. What kind of election campaign would seek out opposition research from a foreign citizen to attack a domestic opponent.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

I trust you'll be condemning such 'principle free' behaviour from the Clinton campaign.

[Virginiá]

Ew, that is disgusting, but sorry, "both sides do it" doesn't really cut it for me:

1. Russia was our biggest enemy for almost the entire latter half of the 20th century, and since the USSR dissolved they have been quietly working to undermine liberal democracy across the western world. They are still our enemy, and this is a big part of why Trump's possible connections were bad.

2. Russia attacked our presidential election and was involved in numerous attack vectors meant to tilt the election towards one candidate (I don't care if you don't believe that, because your opinion vs intelligence agencies and other information is worthless to me)

3. Ukraine is just "some country" compared to Russia. They are not really even a threat - except maybe if Russia absorbed them again.

But most of all:

4. Most of my post was directed at the GOP's incessant "patriotic" theme, where they constantly try and portray themselves as the "real Americans" who care about America above all else, all while calling Democrats literal spawns of Satan or unpatriotic commies at best, yet here they are, drinking from the Russian teet because they are desperate to win elections, having cast aside their morals and principles long, long ago. And they have the gall to waltz around, chests puffed high, acting like the only real patriots. Give me a break.


So don't give me that, EnglishPete. Anyone working with a foreign power to hurt their political opponent is pretty sleazy, but don't try and act like all sleaze comes in the same potency or flavor.

[The Other Castro]

WOW, another bombshell follow up on this meeting:

"Russian Government Sought to Aid Trump’s Candidacy, According to Email"

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-russia-email-candidacy.html?_r=1

Anyone care to guess what Trump Jr.'s next statement will be on what really happened? This is like....real, actual stuff now.

[The Other Castro]

He literally got an email saying something to the effect of: If you meet with me, I'll give you some damaging Clinton information that came from the Russian government, because they want your dad to win. And he went to the meeting.

[ApatheticAustrian]

the goalpost was moved so much at this point, that the defenders must be shaky.

#BUTHISEMAILS

[Yank2133]

Remember that the sources are coming from the WH, which means they are trying to get ahead of the story.

It is going to get far worse.

[ApatheticAustrian]

He literally got an email saying something to the effect of: If you meet with me, I'll give you some damaging Clinton information that came from the Russian government, because they want your dad to win. And he went to the meeting.

not just went there....

took the crown price and the official campaign head with him.

wtf where those guys thinking?

[ApatheticAustrian]

[Yank2133]

BTW, no one posted the elmo pic yet

[ApatheticAustrian]

Drudge jumping off the Trump train?

drudge serves no one but himself.....he easily pushed ailes under the bus when it was the more convenient.

[Brittain33]

Remember that the sources are coming from the WH, which means they are trying to get ahead of the story.

It is going to get far worse.

I'm liking the theory that Kushner is throwing DT Jr. under the bus here.

[Yank2133]

POTUS throws Jr. under the bus.

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/884592109663268865

[The_Doctor]

so, more interesting stuff. I see we can get Don Jr for attempted collusion.

[ApatheticAustrian]

POTUS throws Jr. under the bus.

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/884592109663268865

this is unreal.

could have worked with flynn/manafort but.....with kushner AND don jr?

is donald an idiot or what is his relationship to his family?

[Crumpets]

POTUS throws Jr. under the bus.

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/884592109663268865

My favorite comment:

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[The Other Castro]

I think there's an idea out there that malicious people are very smart, which may stem from TV shows and movies. In reality, malicious people are often incompetent, careless, and dumb.

[Holmes]

The Trumps are so strupid.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Oh EnglishPete! EnglishPete! Come out and pllllaaaaayyyyyy

[Confused Democrat]

This story will last a couple of news cycles, and then everyone will forget about it until the next shoe drops a couple of weeks from now.

It's become a cycle now, and its only made me grow more cynical about the state of politics in this country.

[The Other Castro]

Also, as Vox has noted, 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510 indicates Trump Jr. already broke the law if the email does indeed show that he knew this was coming from Russia.

"A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election."

“No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by [this law].”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/7/10/15950590/donald-trump-jr-new-york-times-illegal

[ProudModerate2]

IF THIS TURNS-OUT TO BE TRUE, THIS IS HUGE & DEVASTATING NEWS !! Per the New York Times article :

Email Is Said to Indicate Clinton Dirt Was Part of Russian Plan to Aid Trump.

• The message was sent by the man who helped broker a meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian lawyer to discuss information damaging to Hillary Clinton.
• As it was described to The Times by three people, the email indicates that the Russian government was the source of the information.

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&region=TopBar&module=HomePage-Button&pgtype=article&WT.z_jog=1&hF=t&vS=undefined

[Gass3268]

From one of the co-authors of the piece:

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[GeorgiaModerate]

IF THIS TURNS-OUT TO BE TRUE, THIS IS HUGE & DEVASTATING NEWS !! Per the New York Times article :

Email Is Said to Indicate Clinton Dirt Was Part of Russian Plan to Aid Trump.

• The message was sent by the man who helped broker a meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian lawyer to discuss information damaging to Hillary Clinton.
• As it was described to The Times by three people, the email indicates that the Russian government was the source of the information.

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&region=TopBar&module=HomePage-Button&pgtype=article&WT.z_jog=1&hF=t&vS=undefined

"Part of".  Hmmmmmmm.