Trump Jr./Russian lawyer meeting: Jr. knew info was part of Russian Gov effort

[ProudModerate2]

Oh EnglishPete! EnglishPete! Come out and pllllaaaaayyyyyy

Oh don't worry, he will be posting soon.
He has to call-in and check with his "trump support hotline" for the latest phony-baloney counter-defense statements. He will try to sway us, amaze us and startle us with his usual hogwash lines of excuses for this latest mess.
It does wonders on fooling many ignorant trump supporters, but as usual most Atlas members can see right through his bullsh*t.

[DrScholl]

You have to give them credit for pulling out all the stops to win. This is pretty darn good scheming.

[Gass3268]

To me the craziest thing about this line of reporting is the source is either in the White House or a close associate/friend of Junior.

[The_Doctor]

Is apathetic austrian updating us or do I have to read twitter?

[ProudModerate2]

To me the craziest thing about this line of reporting is the source is either in the White House or a close associate/friend of Junior.

Sometimes, when you know something is so awful, and that it can or does have negative effects on so many (US gov, US citizens and our allies), you just cant hold back. Loyalty becomes second place.
You feel so guilty and you just have to reveal the information. Usually these people have a higher set of personal morals/ethics, which is completely missing from scum like trump, trump jr, Bannon, etc.

This can be compared to actual stories where parents who know of their son/daughter murdering someone, and they reveal such info to the authorities. They even have close ties to their child, but they cant hide such a heinous act.

[Hindsight was 2020]

To me the craziest thing about this line of reporting is the source is either in the White House or a close associate/friend of Junior.

Or someone who was at the meeting who is in deep legal trouble and might be looking for a plea deal  *cough* Manafort *cough*

[The_Doctor]

Nuclear Elmo plz?

[Virginiá]

Nuclear Elmo plz?

[Silent Hunter]

Seriously, the only Trump who appears to be innocent of anything round here is Barron.

[ProudModerate2]

BWAHAHAHAHA

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OMG !
The trump family and their campaign associates, are amateurs.
The only thing worse is an actual trail of blood left behind as evidence.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

You have to give them credit for pulling out all the stops to win. This is pretty darn good scheming.

Except for the "getting caught and exposed as traitors" bit.

[EnglishPete]

Ew, that is disgusting, but sorry, "both sides do it" doesn't really cut it for me:

1. Russia was our biggest enemy for almost the entire latter half of the 20th century, and since the USSR dissolved they have been quietly working to undermine liberal democracy across the western world. They are still our enemy, and this is a big part of why Trump's possible connections were bad.

2. Russia attacked our presidential election and was involved in numerous attack vectors meant to tilt the election towards one candidate (I don't care if you don't believe that, because your opinion vs intelligence agencies and other information is worthless to me)

3. Ukraine is just "some country" compared to Russia. They are not really even a threat - except maybe if Russia absorbed them again.

But most of all:

4. Most of my post was directed at the GOP's incessant "patriotic" theme, where they constantly try and portray themselves as the "real Americans" who care about America above all else, all while calling Democrats literal spawns of Satan or unpatriotic commies at best, yet here they are, drinking from the Russian teet because they are desperate to win elections, having cast aside their morals and principles long, long ago. And they have the gall to waltz around, chests puffed high, acting like the only real patriots. Give me a break.


So don't give me that, EnglishPete. Anyone working with a foreign power to hurt their political opponent is pretty sleazy, but don't try and act like all sleaze comes in the same potency or flavor.

The Eighties called, they want their foreign policy back

We're at war with Eastasia, we've always been at war with Eastasia.

[EnglishPete]

He literally got an email saying something to the effect of: If you meet with me, I'll give you some damaging Clinton information that came from the Russian government, because they want your dad to win. And he went to the meeting.

Is that LITERALLY true? The Carlos Slim Blog publishes an article written by four people, none of whom has seen this alleged e-mail but which reports that three other people 'with knowledge' of the e-mail report that it said the info was coming from thee Kremlin. None of the Carlos Slim Blog bloggers who put together the article claim to have seen the alleged e-mail, its not even clarified if the people they claim are 'with knowledge' of the e-mail have seen it.

Perhaps it might easier to comment on this when we have something other than second or third hand gossip to go on.

[Middle-aged Europe]

[Adam Griffin]

Eric Bolling chucks Donnie boy under the bus:

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Sad!

No, he's saying the opposite.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Can I please have a bowl of borscht to go with my nothingburger?

[Middle-aged Europe]

Can I please have a bowl of borscht to go with my nothingburger?

Nope, wouldn't want you to get too fat.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Can I please have a bowl of borscht to go with my nothingburger?

Nope, wouldn't want you to get too fat.

Fine, I'll add extra Russian Dressing to my salad. 

[Hindsight was 2020]

Can I please have a bowl of borscht to go with my nothingburger?

Honest question do you keep saying "nothingburger" to convince us or are you trying to convince yourself?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Can I please have a bowl of borscht to go with my nothingburger?

Honest question do you keep saying "nothingburger" to convince us or are you trying to convince yourself?

Neh, I'm convinced, but I can't convince the left.  I just use it cause I like it, for now.  (Honest answer)

To expand on my honest reply, I truly believe most of American does this when the Russian drums beat every morning, noon and night on the news.

[EnglishPete]

Can I please have a bowl of borscht to go with my nothingburger?

Honest question do you keep saying "nothingburger" to convince us or are you trying to convince yourself?

My answer to that question. I'm stating my honest opinions. This is a discussion board and, like most of the people in this thread, I enjoy discussing my opinions on these type of political questions.

[EnglishPete]

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/884767093673144321

LOL

[EnglishPete]

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https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884751036614946816

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

This is what I think every time I read an EnglishPete post: https://youtu.be/lWsuokWmEZI

[Santander]

Democrats say they want to "follow the facts wherever they lead". That's complete BS. They already came up with the conclusion that Trump is a traitor and they have been trying to make the facts fit their narrative.