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« Reply #125 on: August 22, 2017, 02:01:36 AM »
Quote from: Saguaro on August 21, 2017, 08:43:10 PM
If Trump actually pardons Arpaio tomorrow, it'll probably end Flake's GE chances and absolutely destroy Ward's.
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« Reply #126 on: August 22, 2017, 02:35:18 AM »
Quote from: Webnicz on August 22, 2017, 02:01:36 AM
Quote from: Saguaro on August 21, 2017, 08:43:10 PM
If Trump actually pardons Arpaio tomorrow, it'll probably end Flake's GE chances and absolutely destroy Ward's.
He will likely pardon Arpaio. Does this mean that if Flake wins his primary, he is DOA and loses to Sinema?
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« Reply #127 on: August 22, 2017, 02:41:46 AM »
« Edited: August 22, 2017, 02:44:59 AM by Saguaro »
Quote from: ERM64man on August 22, 2017, 02:35:18 AM
Quote from: Webnicz on August 22, 2017, 02:01:36 AM
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If Trump actually pardons Arpaio tomorrow, it'll probably end Flake's GE chances and absolutely destroy Ward's.

He will likely pardon Arpaio. Does this mean that if Flake wins his primary, he is DOA and loses to Sinema?

Not necessarily DOA, but he's going to be in an awful position. Flake is already a poor incumbent and an even worse campaigner, running during a bad year in increasingly friendly territory for the Democrats. If Trump pardons Arpaio, Flake is going to be in a no-win situation: back the increasingly-nuclear president and fend off Ward while alienating swing voters? Or go against the Don and risk losing the primary, and thus the seat, to Kelli the Kook?

At this point, I think I'm finally ready to rate the race: Tossup between Flake and Sinema, Tilt D between Flake and Stanton, and Likely D between Ward and literally anyone.
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« Reply #128 on: August 22, 2017, 11:56:38 AM »
If Trump goes all out today and pardons Arpaio and endorses Kelli Ward (who might be at the rally as well), he could make 2018 a disaster for the AZ GOP, all to feed his ego. Ducey might not even be safe.
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« Reply #129 on: August 22, 2017, 01:42:29 PM »
things are starting to get very confusing. Politico now reporting that Ward will not not be speaking. Dewitt and Graham will be joining the president on Air Force one and at the event. Even though dewitt was stating last week he didn't want to run which led trump to praise ward.Or atlas thats how I interpreted it. Let me know what you guys think of this.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/22/trump-phoenix-arizona-jeff-flake-241878
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« Reply #130 on: August 22, 2017, 05:32:57 PM »
The White House says Arpaio will not be pardoned for now. Does anyone believe the White House's statement? I don't.
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« Reply #131 on: August 22, 2017, 05:53:23 PM »
There is no chance Sinema can win. She has way too much baggage.
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« Reply #132 on: August 22, 2017, 05:54:41 PM »
Quote from: Silent Cal on August 22, 2017, 05:53:23 PM
There is no chance Sinema can win. She has way too much baggage.

You say that as though her opponent isn't likely going to be a lady who is two steps away, at the absolute most, from actually wearing a tinfoil hat.
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« Reply #133 on: August 22, 2017, 06:35:49 PM »
Going around on message boards saying Sinema has baggage doesn't make it true.
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« Reply #134 on: August 22, 2017, 06:45:37 PM »
Quote from: Silent Cal on August 22, 2017, 05:53:23 PM
There is no chance Sinema can win. She has way too much baggage.

she's running against a Senator with an 18% approval rating. A wooden plank with a smiley face on it could probably beat Flake if the election was today.
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« Reply #135 on: August 22, 2017, 06:46:59 PM »
Quote from: Silent Cal on August 22, 2017, 05:53:23 PM
There is no chance Sinema can win. She has way too much baggage.

Not compared to Chemtrail Kelli:

Amazing video by Team Flake
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« Reply #136 on: August 22, 2017, 07:45:31 PM »
Quote from: Gass3268 on August 22, 2017, 06:46:59 PM
Quote from: Silent Cal on August 22, 2017, 05:53:23 PM
There is no chance Sinema can win. She has way too much baggage.

Not compared to Chemtrail Kelli:

Amazing video by Team Flake
That was absolutely amazing
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« Reply #137 on: August 22, 2017, 08:18:38 PM »
Quote from: Maxwell on August 22, 2017, 06:45:37 PM
Quote from: Silent Cal on August 22, 2017, 05:53:23 PM
There is no chance Sinema can win. She has way too much baggage.

she's running against a Senator with an 18% approval rating. A wooden plank with a smiley face on it could probably beat Flake if the election was today.

22% -- but it's probably going to be more like 37%.

https://kelliward.com/articles/polling-shows-ward-surging-against-flake

"Flake’s favorables were upside down (22% - 41%). Dr. Ward was seen more favorable than unfavorable (37% - 13%) and both Graham and Dewit received more than 80% “no opinion”."
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« Reply #138 on: August 22, 2017, 08:20:38 PM »
Situation regarding trump-ward endorsement is getting hazy. Politico is reporting WH is trying to keep her out, yet trump praised her on twitter. Very very confusing. Thoughts?
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« Reply #139 on: August 22, 2017, 10:36:19 PM »

apparently he was told "not to name names" but he directly said "our other senator is very weak on borders" which is red meat for a Ward ad.
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« Reply #140 on: August 22, 2017, 10:53:02 PM »

I like the fact that it's trending on YouTube right now.
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« Reply #141 on: August 22, 2017, 11:53:12 PM »
Quote from: Maxwell on August 22, 2017, 06:45:37 PM
Quote from: Silent Cal on August 22, 2017, 05:53:23 PM
There is no chance Sinema can win. She has way too much baggage.

she's running against a Senator with an 18% approval rating. A wooden plank with a smiley face on it could probably beat Flake if the election was today.

Fake poll, tool...
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« Reply #142 on: August 22, 2017, 11:54:01 PM »
Quote from: Bagel23 on August 22, 2017, 11:53:12 PM
Quote from: Maxwell on August 22, 2017, 06:45:37 PM
Quote from: Silent Cal on August 22, 2017, 05:53:23 PM
There is no chance Sinema can win. She has way too much baggage.

she's running against a Senator with an 18% approval rating. A wooden plank with a smiley face on it could probably beat Flake if the election was today.

Flake poll, tool...
ftfy
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« Reply #143 on: August 22, 2017, 11:56:49 PM »
Quote from: Libertarian-Leaning Progressive on August 22, 2017, 11:54:01 PM
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Quote from: Maxwell on August 22, 2017, 06:45:37 PM
Quote from: Silent Cal on August 22, 2017, 05:53:23 PM
There is no chance Sinema can win. She has way too much baggage.

she's running against a Senator with an 18% approval rating. A wooden plank with a smiley face on it could probably beat Flake if the election was today.

Flake poll, tool...
ftfy
Thanks dude.
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« Reply #144 on: August 23, 2017, 02:58:08 PM »
Ward says that Sean Hannity has endorsed her: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/347692-flake-challenger-kelli-ward-says-hannity-backs-her
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« Reply #145 on: August 23, 2017, 04:33:53 PM »
Flake is delusional he should abandon his re-election bid.
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« Reply #146 on: August 23, 2017, 04:35:46 PM »
Am I the only one who thinks Gallego would be a better candidate than Sinema?
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« Reply #147 on: August 23, 2017, 06:06:02 PM »
Why is Flake so unpopular? Because he's too liberal or because he's too Trump-ish?
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« Reply #148 on: August 23, 2017, 06:18:12 PM »
Quote from: Ἅιδης on August 23, 2017, 06:06:02 PM
Why is Flake so unpopular? Because he's too liberal or because he's too Trump-ish?

too anti-trump and too politically tone deaf.
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« Reply #149 on: August 23, 2017, 06:49:54 PM »
Quote from: Ἅιδης on August 23, 2017, 06:06:02 PM
Why is Flake so unpopular? Because he's too liberal or because he's too Trump-ish?

Conveys too much genuine decency.
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