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« Reply #150 on: August 23, 2017, 06:54:24 PM »

The Dems are going to pick up this seat.
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« Reply #151 on: August 23, 2017, 07:56:20 PM »

Why is Flake so unpopular? Because he's too liberal or because he's too Trump-ish?

He has an amazing way of coming across as insincere to literally every voter bloc in the state, and his vehemence in opposing Trump hasn't made him any friends among the Schweikert and Arpaio types.
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« Reply #152 on: August 24, 2017, 09:45:34 PM »

Why is Flake so unpopular? Because he's too liberal or because he's too Trump-ish?

He has an amazing way of coming across as insincere to literally every voter bloc in the state
, and his vehemence in opposing Trump hasn't made him any friends among the Schweikert and Arpaio types.

This is his biggest problem.

If you are going to be anti-Trump then you have to back it up. Writing an book about Trump being terrible and making money off of it is a bad look.
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« Reply #153 on: August 24, 2017, 11:20:15 PM »

Why is Flake so unpopular? Because he's too liberal or because he's too Trump-ish?

Conveys too much genuine decency.

Hey now, he voted for the AHCA unlike his colleague McCain. Let's not throw around the word "decency" too much.
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« Reply #154 on: August 25, 2017, 04:58:34 AM »

BREAKING NEWS: robert graham (the guy nobody knows but is considered by atlas folk as very credible) just retweeted a video of himself saying he now "is not ruling it out"

https://twitter.com/RobertSGraham/status/900945113211215881

also I can't find the article anymore but there was one earlier that stated sources from those who were at the meeting between trump & dewitt said that its understood dewitt is not going to run (Trent Franks supposedly was involved in the conversation as well)

It appears Trump want to Support Graham, not sure why he gave Ward a platform (she's gained thousands of new followers on social media) if he did not want to support her.

Graham is going to need a lot of cash just to get his Name rec up.
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« Reply #155 on: August 25, 2017, 05:04:38 AM »

Also, Im having my doubts that Ward would back off if Graham entered the race, she just has too much pride. But considering her extreme loyalty to the president I could see her doing it after a talk with him.

If graham gets in(along with millions of dollars) and ward backs off, the primary is lean Graham.

I still have no idea about Flake v Ward - I want to say toss up because Kelli Ward, while she is laughed at on this site, has a huge following in Arizona which has only grown. On top of that she has Beach and Lowder from Great America Pac working with for now which I can only assume leads to deep fundraising connections
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« Reply #156 on: August 25, 2017, 09:39:15 AM »

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« Reply #157 on: August 25, 2017, 10:34:22 AM »


That tweet is gold.
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« Reply #158 on: August 25, 2017, 06:42:22 PM »

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/450597/jeff-flake-2018-trump-kelli-ward-arizona-senate-primary-opponent-repulicans-lose-seat

My prediction-https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_special_election_in_Delaware,_2010 2.0
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« Reply #159 on: August 25, 2017, 07:25:07 PM »

As in, the Republicans blow a winnable race because a crazy lady won the primary over the more electable establishment choice?
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« Reply #160 on: August 25, 2017, 07:26:16 PM »

After today, Ward is deader than ever.
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« Reply #161 on: August 25, 2017, 07:31:51 PM »

Yep, he did. As many people here were talking about,
Trump has indeed pardoned Joe Arpaio.

What bearings will this have on Arizona Republicans like Flake and Ducey? Could this affect races in other areas with sizable Latino populations?
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« Reply #162 on: August 25, 2017, 08:53:20 PM »

Yep, he did. As many people here were talking about,
Trump has indeed pardoned Joe Arpaio.

What bearings will this have on Arizona Republicans like Flake and Ducey? Could this affect races in other areas with sizable Latino populations?
It might affect areas with large Latino populations. Arpaio voters will likely vote for Ward. Trump-Penzone voters and Latino Republicans will likely vote for Flake, but vote for Sinema in November if Ward wins the primary.
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« Reply #163 on: August 25, 2017, 10:30:56 PM »

Kyrsten Sinema must be ECSTATIC after the pardon.
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« Reply #164 on: August 25, 2017, 10:34:34 PM »

Flake plummeted in the betting markets. Basically at low 20s/30

He's a goner

Which one are you referring to? Predictit has him at 31 right now.
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« Reply #165 on: August 25, 2017, 11:04:47 PM »

Flake plummeted in the betting markets. Basically at low 20s/30

He's a goner

Which one are you referring to? Predictit has him at 31 right now.

Doesn't matter. He's toast. And so is the Republican in McCain's seat if that becomes vacant in 2018
What happens if McCain's seat becomes vacant in 2019, will it affect the presidential race in 2020 in AZ?
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« Reply #166 on: August 25, 2017, 11:42:43 PM »

D+1.
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« Reply #167 on: August 26, 2017, 12:21:54 AM »

Perhaps Arpaio will jump into this race now. I'd imagine Ward would step aside for him.
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« Reply #168 on: August 26, 2017, 01:45:01 AM »

Flake isn't in good shape himself.
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« Reply #169 on: August 26, 2017, 02:09:42 AM »

Perhaps Arpaio will jump into this race now. I'd imagine Ward would step aside for him.

D+1
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« Reply #170 on: August 26, 2017, 02:20:02 AM »

If it's Ward v. Sinema, as much as I hate to give my (symbolic) endorsement to an atheist, I have to go with Sinema. There are simply no circumstances where it is safe to let Chemtrail Kelli into the Senate.
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« Reply #171 on: August 26, 2017, 02:22:12 AM »
« Edited: August 26, 2017, 02:27:17 AM by Saguaro »

If it's Ward v. Sinema, as much as I hate to give my (symbolic) endorsement to an atheist, I have to go with Sinema. There are simply no circumstances where it is safe to let Chemtrail Kelli into the Senate.

I often find myself very deeply questioning your logic, Wulf, but in this I proudly welcome you to Convoy Kyrsten.

Also, as an Arizonan, I can completely confirm the analysis in this thread: Flake's career is over, this seat is probably ours, and I'm finally willing to give up my Representative for the sake of taking it. I just hope Stanton jumps in to claim her seat when she makes the announcement.
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« Reply #172 on: August 26, 2017, 02:34:56 AM »

If Jeff DeWit or Trent Franks runs, could Flake win the primary?
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« Reply #173 on: August 26, 2017, 02:46:58 AM »

If Jeff DeWit or Trent Franks runs, could Flake win the primary?

A Trumpist rift would only help his numbers, so it's feasible. It still wouldn't change his fate, since a primary bloodbath will only leave him weaker than ever when he goes up against Sinema.

Politically, at this point, Jeff Flake is a dead man.
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« Reply #174 on: August 26, 2017, 03:06:03 AM »

If it's Ward v. Sinema, as much as I hate to give my (symbolic) endorsement to an atheist, I have to go with Sinema. There are simply no circumstances where it is safe to let Chemtrail Kelli into the Senate.

I often find myself very deeply questioning your logic, Wulf, but in this I proudly welcome you to Convoy Kyrsten.

Also, as an Arizonan, I can completely confirm the analysis in this thread: Flake's career is over, this seat is probably ours, and I'm finally willing to give up my Representative for the sake of taking it. I just hope Stanton jumps in to claim her seat when she makes the announcement.

Is it better to have Stanton run for Sinema's seat or for Governor?
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