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2020
 
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2024
 
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2028
 
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2032
 
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2036 or later
 
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« on: July 11, 2017, 05:38:38 PM »
« edited: July 11, 2017, 05:43:59 PM by Technocracy Timmy »

MIMAL is an acronym for these states:



The last President to win these states was Bill Clinton in 96' (1992 as well). Bush came close in both 2000 and 2004. Trump almost pulled it off last year (losing MN by only 1.52 points). Which year will we see these states vote in unison?
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2017, 05:43:52 PM »

Could be 2020, or maaaybe 2024, but I put 2028 (I think it will be R that year). By 2032, Louisiana may even start moving back to the left, it seems like it will eventually become a "New South" state with changing demographics. IA and AR are probably gone for the Dems for a while.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2017, 05:52:10 PM »

A democratic realignment landslide or a swing of 2 points in Minnesota are the 2 scenarios where this is possible.
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2017, 05:26:32 PM »

2020, if Trump wins the popular vote... or if someone like Joe Manchin or JBE is the Democratic nominee and Trump is super unpopular.
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2017, 05:27:54 PM »
« Edited: December 11, 2017, 04:28:49 PM by Progress96 »

2032, either a re-election of an incumbent GOP president or after 8 years of a democrat. In 2020, Pence MIGHT win if the democratic candidate is someone like Booker or Warren.
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2017, 05:31:06 PM »

 In 2020 when trump flips Minnesota.
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2017, 11:18:44 PM »

2032, after 3 Democratic terms.
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2017, 05:17:38 PM »

2020, if Trump wins the popular vote... or if someone like Joe Manchin or JBE is the Democratic nominee and Trump is super unpopular.

2020 - Charlie Baker (R-MA) vs. Joe Manchin (D-WV)
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2017, 05:30:15 PM »

2020 or 2028.
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2017, 05:54:25 PM »

2024
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2017, 06:29:59 PM »

2020, if Trump wins the popular vote... or if someone like Joe Manchin or JBE is the Democratic nominee and Trump is super unpopular.

2020 - Charlie Baker (R-MA) vs. Joe Manchin (D-WV)
I know you're joking, but in that scenario I think either Minnesota or Iowa would go for Baker, while Manchin wins Arkansas, Missouri, and maaaaaybe Louisiana.
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2017, 06:43:19 PM »

As long as MN remains Safe D, and AR remains Safe R, which is going to remain the case for a long time.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2017, 07:48:41 PM »



you think Trump will win MN in 2020
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2017, 08:06:15 PM »


You think Trump will make it to 2020
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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2017, 10:49:03 AM »

Could be 2020, or maaaybe 2024, but I put 2028 (I think it will be R that year). By 2032, Louisiana may even start moving back to the left, it seems like it will eventually become a "New South" state with changing demographics. IA and AR are probably gone for the Dems for a while.

Not sure I would lump IA and AR together.
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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2017, 12:18:27 PM »

In the next Republican victory, regardless of year.  I'll be optimistic and say 2020.
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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2017, 12:22:19 PM »

In the next Republican victory, regardless of year.  I'll be optimistic and say 2020.
If Trump loses in 2020, than maybe.
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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2017, 11:57:59 PM »

LOL Pence is a terrible candidate for Minnesota. Akin to if Michele Bachmann ran statewide.
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2017, 12:08:18 AM »

LOL Pence is a terrible candidate for Minnesota. Akin to if Michele Bachmann ran statewide.

I always got the sense that MN Republicans were more ideologically conservative- why Trump came in third in the primary.  Wouldn't that translate to Pence doing even better than Trump there?
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2017, 01:01:58 AM »

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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2017, 01:51:43 AM »

LOL Pence is a terrible candidate for Minnesota. Akin to if Michele Bachmann ran statewide.

I always got the sense that MN Republicans were more ideologically conservative- why Trump came in third in the primary.  Wouldn't that translate to Pence doing even better than Trump there?

Ah yes. Just like how since Trump blew out the Republican competition in Arizona and Georgia yet he did better worse than Romney there?

At least in Georgia, Crubio killed Trump in the primary.  Looking at Trump vs. the field is problematic, and at least Trump vs. Crubio gives a much better sense.  I personally don't think there is a single state that Cruz or Rubio would not have improved on Trump in.  I think Rubio's ceiling would have been this:



California is within 0.1% for Clinton.  Rubio loses Maryland and Massachusetts by about 5, but wins 47 states in a landslide victory.  No one understands how uniquely hated Hillary Clinton is.  The only reason it was remotely close was that the other most hated person in America ran against her.  Any other Republican would have won by 10+ points in the PV.  Rubio probably wins by about 20, with the biggest shift coming from young voters going from Clinton +18 to Rubio +25 or so.
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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2017, 11:45:09 AM »

LOL Pence is a terrible candidate for Minnesota. Akin to if Michele Bachmann ran statewide.

He’s a better fit than some Green candidate winning any race in MN.
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2017, 12:19:00 AM »

LOL Pence is a terrible candidate for Minnesota. Akin to if Michele Bachmann ran statewide.

He’s a better fit than some Green candidate winning any race in MN.

Well then it's a good thing no Green Party candidate has ever won a statewide election in Minnesota.

LOL Pence is a terrible candidate for Minnesota. Akin to if Michele Bachmann ran statewide.

I always got the sense that MN Republicans were more ideologically conservative- why Trump came in third in the primary.  Wouldn't that translate to Pence doing even better than Trump there?

Trump got over 1.3 million votes in Minnesota. There was barely over 100k cast in the Republican caucus. It's a low turnout affair that only attracted activist types and isn't representative of anything.

Pence is not going to win back affluent voters in Edina or Eden Prairie, and wouldn't win towns like Hibbing either.
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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2017, 12:21:25 AM »

Never of course.
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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2017, 12:33:11 AM »

2020, 2024 potentially.
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