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« on: July 12, 2017, 01:56:13 PM »

2004 was too soon after Bill's Presidency for her to run. It would've been like Jeb! running in 2012 just four years after his brother. Granted a  Hillary run  in 2004 would've faired better than a Jeb! run in 2012, I still think 04 was too soon and 2008 was her chance.
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2017, 02:31:36 PM »

2004 was too soon after Bill's Presidency for her to run. It would've been like Jeb! running in 2012 just four years after his brother. Granted a  Hillary run  in 2004 would've faired better than a Jeb! run in 2012, I still think 04 was too soon and 2008 was her chance.

But I think a Jeb! run in 2012 would have fared better than a Jeb! run in 2016...so...

It would've only faired better if Romney sat the race out. If he still runs, Jeb! 2012 is more or less the same as Jeb! 2016.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2017, 04:54:42 PM »

2004 was too soon after Bill's Presidency for her to run. It would've been like Jeb! running in 2012 just four years after his brother. Granted a  Hillary run  in 2004 would've faired better than a Jeb! run in 2012, I still think 04 was too soon and 2008 was her chance.

But I think a Jeb! run in 2012 would have fared better than a Jeb! run in 2016...so...

I think Jeb! would still lose to Obama about as badly as Romney did, he may even do worse than Romney. Best case for him is that he carries every Romney state plus Florida but still loses.

It would've only faired better if Romney sat the race out. If he still runs, Jeb! 2012 is more or less the same as Jeb! 2016.

Nah, not as bad as Jeb! 2016. In 2012, there's no Trump. Trump absolutely bullied Jeb!.
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2017, 09:12:16 PM »

If Clinton were to win in 2008, she'd be more vulnerable than he was in 2012 (I do however think she would've at least been equally as accomplished as Obama in OTL), because she's less inspiring and is more controversial than he is. With that said, unless Romney against Hillary is more inspiring than the Romney that ran against Obama, she beats him by a narrower margin than Obama did. A more experienced Senator Obama runs in 2016 and defeats VP Warner or Bayh in the primary and wins the General Election.
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