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« on: July 12, 2017, 08:27:52 AM »

What party would you or do you identify with?
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2017, 10:01:48 AM »

I sported a blue avatar for years, have held office as a Republican, and voted in the Republican primaries.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2017, 10:19:50 AM »
« Edited: July 12, 2017, 10:21:41 AM by Tender Branson »

I have previously voted for a variety of parties: SPÖ, Greens, ÖVP and Independents. I have never voted for the liberal NEOS so far (but it might be an option in future elections) and never voted for the FPÖ so far (and never will). I've also never voted for the Team Stronach or BZÖ (too much of a joke).

In the US, I would vote Democratic - but not for Hillary.
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2017, 10:20:52 AM »

I only do it because I like the color. I probably align with the Democrats most, but I have serious reservations with regards to party leadership.
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2017, 10:25:32 AM »

I am a registered Democrat (except for last year's primary) but ideologically, I am more aligned with American Solidarity.
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2017, 11:28:14 AM »

I identified with the Green Party for many years (and had a G-VA avatar on here for over a year), but my views have shifted farther away from the far left to where I don't really know what party I identify with anymore.

Maybe the Democrats, but the Democratic Party has been pretty gross lately and I refuse to consider myself one Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2017, 11:29:38 AM »

I identified with the Green Party for many years (and had a G-VA avatar on here for over a year), but my views have shifted farther away from the far left to where I don't really know what party I identify with anymore.

Maybe the Democrats, but the Democratic Party has been pretty gross lately and I refuse to consider myself one Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2017, 11:39:29 AM »
« Edited: July 12, 2017, 11:42:46 AM by Senator Scott, PPT »

I used to sport a red avatar, and I am technically still registered D in North Carolina, but I no longer call myself a Democrat because:

1. The party at-large has no idea what it stands for anymore other than being anti-Trump.

2. Civil liberties issues are very important to me and the party has not shown a serious desire to curb government surveillance or radically transform our absurd, outdated, and discriminatory drug laws.

3. I'm also relatively pro-gun although this isn't a very important issue to me.

4. I don't like the fetishization of Obama and the Clintons and believe we need fresh faces.

5. The Dem leadership sucks and I am concerned that certain said leaders are more worried about holding their own power than they are winning elections.

6. And this is kind of a big one.  See, although I might sound like a raving SJW at times, I actually hate political correctness in all forms.  Two decades ago liberals were speaking up for controversial people like Ice-T and Marilyn Manson (whom the Right wanted to censor); now this has gone down in priority for the sake of "not offending people."  Because I do not trust either political party (or institution, for that matter) to defend my freedom of speech, I choose not to affiliate with one.

7. I don't think either party has the right answer on education issues.  Ideally, liberal arts majors would get all the learning they need from high school and colleges would only serve people in specialized fields, but the modern economy practically requires you to have a diploma (and take on a boatload of debt) in order to get ahead.  I support the notion of college being free, but I also question the expectation that all people have a degree.  I also think the US should experiment with aspects of Finland's education program.

8. I'm very non-interventionist; Democrats not so much unless a Republican is dropping the bombs.

9. An array of culture/messaging issues, but those probably speak more about me than they do the party.

10. Not enough economic populism, but that'll probably change as millennials take over the party.

11. Various issues that no one wants to touch (i.e. overpopulation, sustainable economies)

I don't know.  Maybe three/four/more years from now I'll go red again, but as of now I just don't feel comfortable identifying with any party at all.  I voted straight Democrat in my last two elections (plus one Libertarian), so I can't call myself a genuine independent, but my own values and priorities simply don't align with those of the Democratic Party.  Hence, I choose to go orange.

also oranges are really good and we should be eating more of them
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2017, 12:31:38 PM »

I used to be I-NJ, but I switched on a whim. Both are technically incorrect, since I am registered with one of the major parties.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2017, 06:06:00 PM »

6. And this is kind of a big one.  See, although I might sound like a raving SJW at times, I actually hate political correctness in all forms.  Two decades ago liberals were speaking up for controversial people like Ice-T and Marilyn Manson (whom the Right wanted to censor); now this has gone down in priority for the sake of "not offending people."  Because I do not trust either political party (or institution, for that matter) to defend my freedom of speech, I choose not to affiliate with one.

I wonder if you a have romanticized view of the past liberals, or maybe I just have a cynical one, becasue I tend to associate the Democratic party with the Tipper Gore and Joe Lieberman types that want to get the government involved in music and video games.
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2017, 06:28:35 PM »

6. And this is kind of a big one.  See, although I might sound like a raving SJW at times, I actually hate political correctness in all forms.  Two decades ago liberals were speaking up for controversial people like Ice-T and Marilyn Manson (whom the Right wanted to censor); now this has gone down in priority for the sake of "not offending people."  Because I do not trust either political party (or institution, for that matter) to defend my freedom of speech, I choose not to affiliate with one.

I wonder if you a have romanticized view of the past liberals, or maybe I just have a cynical one, becasue I tend to associate the Democratic party with the Tipper Gore and Joe Lieberman types that want to get the government involved in music and video games.

Actually, maybe I do.  I know that Dan Quayle and some other culture warriors on the right raised hell about children being exposed to violence and nudity from TV and video games and music, but Tipper (and Hillary Clinton too, I think) pushed hard for the V-chip and viewer discretion warnings and other crap, especially after the Columbine shooting when people were literally pinning the blame on singers.  Conservatives also wanted stronger obscenity laws because "Cop Killer" was a tad bit triggersome to their religious sensibilities.

So yeah.  I guess both sides did it. Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2017, 06:40:27 PM »

6. And this is kind of a big one.  See, although I might sound like a raving SJW at times, I actually hate political correctness in all forms.  Two decades ago liberals were speaking up for controversial people like Ice-T and Marilyn Manson (whom the Right wanted to censor); now this has gone down in priority for the sake of "not offending people."  Because I do not trust either political party (or institution, for that matter) to defend my freedom of speech, I choose not to affiliate with one.

I wonder if you a have romanticized view of the past liberals, or maybe I just have a cynical one, becasue I tend to associate the Democratic party with the Tipper Gore and Joe Lieberman types that want to get the government involved in music and video games.

Actually, maybe I do.  I know that Dan Quayle and some other culture warriors on the right raised hell about children being exposed to violence and nudity from TV and video games and music, but Tipper (and Hillary Clinton too, I think) pushed hard for the V-chip and viewer discretion warnings and other crap, especially after the Columbine shooting when people were literally pinning the blame on singers.  Conservatives also wanted stronger obscenity laws because "Cop Killer" was a tad bit triggersome to their religious sensibilities.

So yeah.  I guess both sides did it. Tongue

Speaking of Hillary, she also once introduced a bill (co-sponsored by Joe Lieberman, Tim Johnson, and Evan Bayh) which would turn ESRB video game rating into Federal Law. Isn't politics fun? Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2017, 07:25:50 PM »

I'm a de facto Republican but I still identify as a Democrat.
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2017, 07:34:48 PM »

I'm a registered Democrat.

I can't stand the Party for a myriad of reasons, but you only get two choices so yeah.
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2017, 08:47:36 PM »

I was a Republican from 1989 to 2002, and if I could forgive the GOP for Bush v. Gore I would still be more likely to vote for them than for Democrats, but ....

... it's kind of a lot of fun to not be wedded to either party and not be beholden to a set of partisan loyalties. I might enjoy being functionally independent for a good while.
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2017, 05:38:45 AM »
« Edited: July 13, 2017, 05:53:24 AM by Acting Southern Speaker TimTurner »

I don't think I can identify as a Democrat per se partly because I have a fairly large number of idiosyncratic stances and partly because my stances on cultural issues are traditional-y enough to make me seriously out of step with it on some matters (like abortion, one stance I am closer to the GOP than the Dems; though I oppose defunding PP).

Nonetheless I am a partisan for the Dems because I hate the GOP's agenda, and dislike both the traditional rich suburban GOPer wing of the party and Trumpist wing (for dissimilar reasons). I believe in the ideal of a fair shake for everyone, not just rich people, and concern myself quite a bit with how we can help the poor and downtrodden, and the great families and communities that compromise the bulk of this country.

We need an America that works for the citizenry; policy that generally follows the maxim of 'the greatest good for greatest number' and that doesn't overtly hurt families and social cohesion in this country. I don't think the GOP can bring that. They only seem truly interested in helping the top 1% unfortunately, rich people in places like the Park Cities in metro Dallas, which compose a very tiny minority of the people in the country. The Democrats are better by default.

I very much hope to see what the next Democratic administration will accomplish...when that comes. Who knows how much damage the Republicans would have been able to do to this country by then, though. It's not really comforting.

The Democrats are the only party of the two right now that's willing to operate within existing constitutional norms to, via pragmatic steps, actually improve the lives of the common man, and treat poor downtrodden people with even the slightest modicum of much-needed fair treatment. It's far from being flawless, but it's got a better sense of protecting the families of this country, dare I use the term ' family values' than the competition. The GOP only seems to talk 'family values' when it takes to restricting abortion or other stuff that fires up its base. On the other hand the Dem stimulus from 2009-2010 provided strong support for many communities across the country, and Obamacare saved lives by slowing the skyrocketing costs of medical care, helping many poor people.

I'm not convinced one iota by how often Trump and his predecessors tried to posture as protectors of families and traditional values. It's clear that they have done truly damaging things in office and that makes them the true enemies to social cohesion in this nation. Hardline immigration policies tearing undocumented families apart. Tax cuts to rich families making hardworking poor people just making even at the moment even more impoverished. Poor minorities in rural and urban areas suffering thanks to cuts to welfare justified thanks to untrue ideas about their daily lives and situations.

It looks very hypocritical in my view for a politician and/or political party to talk up standing up for life then treat people like this. The practical effect, as much denials may come from the right, is that protecting the fetus stops at childbirth.
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2017, 06:12:51 AM »
« Edited: July 13, 2017, 06:14:40 AM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

I used to sport a red avatar, and I am technically still registered D in North Carolina, but I no longer call myself a Democrat because:

1. The party at-large has no idea what it stands for anymore other than being anti-Trump.

2. Civil liberties issues are very important to me and the party has not shown a serious desire to curb government surveillance or radically transform our absurd, outdated, and discriminatory drug laws.

3. I'm also relatively pro-gun although this isn't a very important issue to me.

4. I don't like the fetishization of Obama and the Clintons and believe we need fresh faces.

5. The Dem leadership sucks and I am concerned that certain said leaders are more worried about holding their own power than they are winning elections.

6. And this is kind of a big one.  See, although I might sound like a raving SJW at times, I actually hate political correctness in all forms.  Two decades ago liberals were speaking up for controversial people like Ice-T and Marilyn Manson (whom the Right wanted to censor); now this has gone down in priority for the sake of "not offending people."  Because I do not trust either political party (or institution, for that matter) to defend my freedom of speech, I choose not to affiliate with one.

7. I don't think either party has the right answer on education issues.  Ideally, liberal arts majors would get all the learning they need from high school and colleges would only serve people in specialized fields, but the modern economy practically requires you to have a diploma (and take on a boatload of debt) in order to get ahead.  I support the notion of college being free, but I also question the expectation that all people have a degree.  I also think the US should experiment with aspects of Finland's education program.

8. I'm very non-interventionist; Democrats not so much unless a Republican is dropping the bombs.

9. An array of culture/messaging issues, but those probably speak more about me than they do the party.

10. Not enough economic populism, but that'll probably change as millennials take over the party.

11. Various issues that no one wants to touch (i.e. overpopulation, sustainable economies)

I don't know.  Maybe three/four/more years from now I'll go red again, but as of now I just don't feel comfortable identifying with any party at all.  I voted straight Democrat in my last two elections (plus one Libertarian), so I can't call myself a genuine independent, but my own values and priorities simply don't align with those of the Democratic Party.  Hence, I choose to go orange.

also oranges are really good and we should be eating more of them

Good points, and I mostly agree, except that I vote more 3rd party and am not really pro gun, but it's not important to me, either. Also, the Democrats are very wishy washy on climate change. Promoting fracking around the world isn't being good on climate change. As for ignored issues, I'd say air pollution and the fact pedestrian fatalities are rapidly increasing.
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2017, 06:59:55 AM »

Honestly, I thought O stood for observer and chose it on the basis that I wasn't American.

I almost always vote for Socialist parties in real life, but like having an unusual avatar.
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2017, 07:36:07 AM »

I used to have a Green avatar, but I became disillusioned by the Green movement (as opposed to the green movement) a year or so ago. I can't conceive as identifying as a democrat, because the party is so useless. And orange is a cool colour (besides, I like being the only prominent O-UK, and there are a gaggle of D-UK, G-UK, S-UK and I-Uk avatars.
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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2017, 02:27:46 PM »

And orange is a cool colour (besides, I like being the only prominent O-UK, and there are a gaggle of D-UK, G-UK, S-UK and I-Uk avatars.

I'm moving to California in a few weeks, so maybe I should go with O-CA, just because we already have prominent I-CA avatars.

I don't want to be binary, and be pushed into D or R avatars.  I want to specify my pronouns, so I can trigger BRTD.
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2017, 02:44:00 PM »

I am a member of the American Solidarity Party.


I sported a blue avatar for years, have held office as a Republican, and voted in the Republican primaries.

You held office as a Republican?  Why don't i know/remember this?

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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2017, 02:46:29 PM »

I sported a blue avatar for years, have held office as a Republican, and voted in the Republican primaries.

You held office as a Republican?  Why don't i know/remember this?

Slight exaggeration; I was an elections inspector for Springfield Township, MI in two different elections. Given the opportunity, I listed my party as Republican. The job involved both an oath of office and pay on the taxpayer's dime, so I consider that "holding office", though not necessarily a particularly prestigious one.
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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2017, 04:09:38 PM »

And orange is a cool colour (besides, I like being the only prominent O-UK, and there are a gaggle of D-UK, G-UK, S-UK and I-Uk avatars.

I'm moving to California in a few weeks, so maybe I should go with O-CA, just because we already have prominent I-CA avatars.

Join the movement! Cheesy

I like the Orange avatar because it's the name of the infamous County I live in; full of educated reasonable Romney Republicans who understood that Hillary Clinton was #withthem.
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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2017, 09:42:55 PM »

I am a member of the American Solidarity Party.

I find that interesting, becasue for whatever reason I tend to associate you with the libertarian leaning posters. I'm not sure why that is...
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2017, 10:00:40 PM »

It's the color of my actual party, the NDP.
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