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« Reply #100 on: July 15, 2017, 06:45:09 PM »


2012's voter turnout in Michigan was 63%, in 2016, it went up to 65%, and a Republican won!

That's true, and Trump probably would have won regardless, but a drop off in wayne county certainly did not help hillary.

It's almost as if Wayne County is losing population. Hmm.
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« Reply #101 on: July 15, 2017, 07:06:23 PM »


2012's voter turnout in Michigan was 63%, in 2016, it went up to 65%, and a Republican won!

That's true, and Trump probably would have won regardless, but a drop off in wayne county certainly did not help hillary.

It's almost as if Wayne County is losing population. Hmm.

Yeah, it's gonna be a big problem for democrats in the future.
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« Reply #102 on: July 15, 2017, 07:27:21 PM »


2012's voter turnout in Michigan was 63%, in 2016, it went up to 65%, and a Republican won!

In the real world, Michigan in 2016 was substantially about Trump getting Dem voters.

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« Reply #103 on: July 16, 2017, 06:19:26 AM »

Fox's Meghan McCain: Kid Rock can run for Senate on the "all-American platform" of "tax cuts, guns, and strippers"

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« Reply #104 on: July 16, 2017, 11:14:32 AM »
« Edited: July 16, 2017, 12:38:06 PM by Santander »

Hell yeah!

Btw, could "Kid Rock for US Senate" be an album name? It's been about 2 years since he released an album, his record label runs the site, and it'd be an insanely successful guerrilla marketing campaign.
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« Reply #105 on: July 16, 2017, 11:48:13 AM »

If he wins, will he be "Senator Rock" or will he go by his real name (Robert Ritchie)?
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« Reply #106 on: July 16, 2017, 12:38:39 PM »

If anyone actually thinks he will win, they have lost their minds. Trump's win was a plurality, which means that his win wasn't exactly impressive or enough to claim that Michigan is going to be West Virginia. And how the hell is he blue collar? Being a musician is far from blue collar. With that being said, he will lose because he's a complete joke and it's likely to be a horrible cycle for Republicans.

And let's remember, that there is a primary and he will be facing a credible challenger who he has little chance of defeating.
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« Reply #107 on: July 16, 2017, 12:39:26 PM »

Prediction: He wins.  MI is going to be the next WV.  I wouldn't be surprised if Trump wins it by 7 in 2020.

Why do you discredit every poll out of there that have him more unpopular than Obama ever was out of the state?
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« Reply #108 on: July 16, 2017, 12:41:18 PM »

And let's remember, that there is a primary and he will be facing a credible challenger who he has little chance of defeating.
It's the Michigan GOP Senate primary... not exactly known for its high quality candidates.
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« Reply #109 on: July 16, 2017, 01:58:50 PM »
« Edited: July 16, 2017, 02:02:12 PM by Compassion Fills the Void »

Can anyone explain how he wins Oakland County or wins without Oakland County?

"But Trump won without winning Oakland County!"

Yes, he was the first Republican to do so basically ever...which gives him an approximately 0.2% margin of error against an entrenched incumbent instead of Hillary Clinton. And Trump still won a lower percentage of the vote than Bush 2004.
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« Reply #110 on: July 16, 2017, 04:04:06 PM »

I just want to remind.

Stabenow won by 21 percent last time.
Any Republican, let alone Kid Rock would struggle to beat her. But he should still be dealt with seriously.

Hoekstra's an abnormally weak candidate in a presidential year. Putting a virulently anti-Asian ad on isn't how someone beats Stabenow.

Likely D, still, but 2012 was still a bit of an odd case that doesn't reflect how popular Stabenow really is.
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« Reply #111 on: July 16, 2017, 04:14:07 PM »

Hoekstra is a weak candidate but Kid Rock is... not?
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« Reply #112 on: July 17, 2017, 07:10:12 AM »

Prediction: He wins.  MI is going to be the next WV.  I wouldn't be surprised if Trump wins it by 7 in 2020.

I know I have controversial opinion but Trump is governing as quite the conservative rather than a populist. Still way early but I suspect every rust belt state including MO and IN will have a Democratic swing/trend in 2020. Illinois is more iffy as downstate versus suburban Chicago land will make predicting a swing and trend tricky.

I was never with the "MUH BLUE WALL!!!" bs but Michigan is not going to be the next West Virginia.

It also seems like Stabenow knows she will have to take this election seriously. In a sort of an irony I would suspect Stabenow could end up being surprisingly vulnerable if Hillary Clinton had won. But that is something we shall never know.

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« Reply #113 on: July 17, 2017, 08:26:55 AM »

Hoekstra is a weak candidate but Kid Rock is... not?

Thank you!
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« Reply #114 on: July 17, 2017, 08:51:08 AM »


2012's voter turnout in Michigan was 63%, in 2016, it went up to 65%, and a Republican won!

That's true, and Trump probably would have won regardless, but a drop off in wayne county certainly did not help hillary.

It's almost as if Wayne County is losing population. Hmm.

Yeah, it's gonna be a big problem for democrats in the future.

Where are they all going? I would've assumed Wayne county expats would just cross 8 mile road into Oakland county but are they leaving the state? Or are blacks outside Detroit voting more republican?
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« Reply #115 on: July 18, 2017, 02:05:14 AM »

I know we should be taking Kid Rock's run seriously, but should we really be thinking he has a chance? He's going up against a popular democrat incumbent in an anti-trump midterm and who is someone who won by 21 points last election.
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« Reply #116 on: July 18, 2017, 07:25:42 PM »


2012's voter turnout in Michigan was 63%, in 2016, it went up to 65%, and a Republican won!

That's true, and Trump probably would have won regardless, but a drop off in wayne county certainly did not help hillary.

It's almost as if Wayne County is losing population. Hmm.

Yeah, it's gonna be a big problem for democrats in the future.

Where are they all going? I would've assumed Wayne county expats would just cross 8 mile road into Oakland county but are they leaving the state? Or are blacks outside Detroit voting more republican?
They are leaving the state. Michigan was the only state to lose population between 2000 and 2010.
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« Reply #117 on: July 18, 2017, 09:48:29 PM »

This is probably just a marketing scam. I have doubts that he actually runs.
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« Reply #118 on: July 18, 2017, 10:48:02 PM »

This is probably just a marketing scam. I have doubts that he actually runs.

Unfortunately marketing scams and political campaigns are now indistinguishable.
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« Reply #119 on: July 18, 2017, 10:49:08 PM »

This is probably just a marketing scam. I have doubts that he actually runs.
Yeah, I think he just wants to sell hats and tee-shirts. He might even collect signatures and appear on the ballot, but he won't actually campaign and his website will never be anything more than selling sh!t.
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« Reply #120 on: July 18, 2017, 11:48:17 PM »

Hoekstra is a weak candidate but Kid Rock is... not?

Hoekstra was a weak Fox News/CSPAN candidate, but Kid Rock is a weak reality TV candidate. Those are very different things. We should understand now that weak but flashy reality TV candidates can win in a state like Michigan.

Rural southern and northern Michigan will TURN OUT for him; Dutch west Michigan and Oakland County probably won't great turn out for him; Macomb Co. might. I'm not sure what will be enough for him to win.
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« Reply #121 on: July 19, 2017, 08:48:22 AM »

Hoekstra is a weak candidate but Kid Rock is... not?

Hoekstra was a weak Fox News/CSPAN candidate, but Kid Rock is a weak reality TV candidate. Those are very different things. We should understand now that weak but flashy reality TV candidates can win in a state like Michigan.

Rural southern and northern Michigan will TURN OUT for him; Dutch west Michigan and Oakland County probably won't great turn out for him; Macomb Co. might. I'm not sure what will be enough for him to win.

Kid Rock may very well not even top Hoekstra's showing, although I'm still not convinced he's even running.  It's far more likely that gets 38% than it is that he comes anywhere close to winning.
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« Reply #122 on: July 20, 2017, 02:57:38 PM »

Hoekstra is a weak candidate but Kid Rock is... not?

Hoekstra was a weak Fox News/CSPAN candidate, but Kid Rock is a weak reality TV candidate. Those are very different things. We should understand now that weak but flashy reality TV candidates can win in a state like Michigan.

Rural southern and northern Michigan will TURN OUT for him; Dutch west Michigan and Oakland County probably won't great turn out for him; Macomb Co. might. I'm not sure what will be enough for him to win.

Kid Rock may very well not even top Hoekstra's showing, although I'm still not convinced he's even running.  It's far more likely that gets 38% than it is that he comes anywhere close to winning.
I doubt Kid Rock defeats Stabenow.
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« Reply #123 on: July 20, 2017, 08:13:45 PM »

This is probably just a marketing scam. I have doubts that he actually runs.

Unfortunately marketing scams and political campaigns are now indistinguishable.
Especially if you're a Republican, unfortunately.
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« Reply #124 on: July 21, 2017, 05:52:28 PM »

And he is qualified how? Can anyone give any reasons why he is qualified?
he is a us citizen over the age of 35 that only things you need be qualified I didnt hear democrats bitching about al franken and I considered him qualified.
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