How old should you have to be to........

[Emsworth]

I have a question... If you don't have a draft.. what happens if all the people die and there is no one left to fight, do we give  up or what?

Obviously, if every civilian is unwilling to enlist in the army, then the collective wish of the civilians will (in effect) be to surrender.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Er, if all the people die who can be drafted?

If you mean all the soldiers, I can't see a scenario in which the entire American army is killed, but in that case it means we ever get the hell out of where they are, or if the war is actually on American territory it doesn't matter because there would be guerilla resistance to whoever was invading anyway. But if some invading power was able to kill the entire American army it would definately be a lost war anyway.

[Ebowed]

1. Get drafted - I oppose conscription
2. Consume Alcoholic Beverages - No limit
3. Consume energy drinks (such as red bull) - No limit
4. Smoke Tobacco - No limit
5. Smoke Marijuana - No limit
6. Own a firearm - I oppose legal firearms
7. Purchase pornography - No limit
8. Have sex with a 23 year old - 16
9. Get a drivers license - 16
10. Gamble - 16
11. Get a job - Like a proper job?  14, but could be persuaded otherwise
12. Watch a rated R movie - No limit

[Josh/Devilman88]

1. Get drafted(Never)
2. Consume Alcoholic Beverages(18)
3. Consume energy drinks (such as red bull)(any age)
4. Smoke Tobacco(18)
5. Smoke Marijuana(16)
6. Own a firearm(21)
7. Purchase pornography(16)
8. Have sex with a 23 year old(16)
9. Get a drivers license (16)
10. Gamble(18)
11. Get a job(14)
12. Watch a rated R movie(16)

[Friz]

1. Get drafted Never
2. Consume Alcoholic Beverages 18
3. Consume energy drinks (such as red bull) 12
4. Smoke Tobacco 16
5. Smoke Marijuana18
6. Own a firearm 18
7. Purchase pornography 16
8. Have sex with a 23 year old 16
9. Get a drivers license 16
10. Gamble 18
11. Get a job  14
12. Watch a rated R movie 13
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[Kaine for Senate '18]

1. Get drafted-21
2. Consume Alcoholic Beverages-16
3. Consume energy drinks (such as red bull)-No limit
4. Smoke Tobacco-18
5. Smoke Marijuana-21
6. Own a firearm-21
7. Purchase pornography-16
8. Have sex with a 23 year old-16
9. Get a drivers license-16
10. Gamble-10
11. Get a job-15
12. Watch a rated R movie-13

[Willy Woz]

1. Get drafted-18
2. Consume Alcoholic Beverages-18
3. Consume energy drinks (such as red bull)-No limit
4. Smoke Tobacco-18
5. Smoke Marijuana-2,978,513,514,733,895,321,400
6. Own a firearm-21
7. Purchase pornography-3,098,714,356,100,311,957,540
8. Have sex with a 23 year old-21
9. Get a drivers license-16
10. Gamble-18
11. Get a job-16
12. Watch a rated R movie-17

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

1. Get drafted- 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999
2. Consume Alcoholic Beverages- No limit(you'd have to be 18 to be able to buy it/use it in public)
3. Consume energy drinks (such as red bull)-No limit(you'd have to be 18 to be able to buy it/use it in public)
4. Smoke Tobacco- No Limit(you'd have to be 18 to be able to buy it/use it in public)
5. Smoke Marijuana-No limit(you'd have to be 18 to be able to buy it/use it in public)
6. Own a firearm- 18
7. Purchase pornography-No limit
8. Have sex with a 23 year old-14
9. Get a drivers license-18
10. Gamble-18
11. Get a job-16
12. Watch a rated R movie-No limit

[Willy Woz]

8. Have sex with a 23 year old-12

What?

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

8. Have sex with a 23 year old-12

What?

Yes I know that was a bit low so I moved it to 14 as the age.

[DownWithTheLeft]

1. Get drafted - Never
2. Consume Alcoholic Beverages - No limit
3. Consume energy drinks (such as red bull) - No limit
4. Smoke Tobacco - No limit
5. Smoke Marijuana - No limit
6. Own a firearm - 13
7. Purchase pornography - No limit
8. Have sex with a 23 year old - 16
9. Get a drivers license - 13
10. Gamble - No limit
11. Get a job - No limit
12. Watch a rated R movie - No limit

Of course, I am implying government limitations, this does not mean I personally think infants should be smoking pot

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Very reasonable attitudes on that you've got.

[Verily]

1. Get drafted Never
2. Consume Alcoholic Beverages 18
3. Consume energy drinks (such as red bull) Any
4. Smoke Tobacco 18
5. Smoke Marijuana 18
6. Own a firearm Never (limited exceptions for handguns only, then 18)
7. Purchase pornography Any
8. Have sex with a 23 year old Any in the sense that the younger person will not be punished. 16 for the older person.
9. Get a drivers license 18
10. Gamble 18
11. Get a job 14 with restrictions until 16, Any for self-employment
12. Watch a rated R movie Any

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Why do you support gun control? You support freedom in so many other areas...

[Verily]

Why do you support gun control? You support freedom in so many other areas...

Because guns are a direct source of violence. Moreover, there is no reason to own a gun except to commit an act of violence (or else to strut, which doesn't count as a reason in my opinion). The self-defense argument falls apart in the face of strong evidence that, for example, home break-ins result in injury or death for the homeowner far more often if the homeowner wields a gun than if not.

Yes, many who have guns are involved in criminal activity anyway. Much of this criminal activity is drug-related, and I think that legalizing recreational drugs would reduce such criminality. Of the rest, at least making guns illegal makes them much more expensive on the black market and thus much more difficult for either criminal individuals or gangs to acquire.

As a general rule, I am in favor of freedoms that benefit society as a whole. Most freedoms do benefit society as a whole. Guns do not.

[afleitch]

Why do you support gun control? You support freedom in so many other areas...

Because guns are a direct source of violence. Moreover, there is no reason to own a gun except to commit an act of violence (or else to strut, which doesn't count as a reason in my opinion). The self-defense argument falls apart in the face of strong evidence that, for example, home break-ins result in injury or death for the homeowner far more often if the homeowner wields a gun than if not.

Yes, many who have guns are involved in criminal activity anyway. Much of this criminal activity is drug-related, and I think that legalizing recreational drugs would reduce such criminality. Of the rest, at least making guns illegal makes them much more expensive on the black market and thus much more difficult for either criminal individuals or gangs to acquire.

As a general rule, I am in favor of freedoms that benefit society as a whole. Most freedoms do benefit society as a whole. Guns do not.

^^^^^^^

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Gun control is a step towards despotism. Hitler favored gun control.

[Verily]

Gun control is a step towards despotism. Hitler favored gun control.

The fact that Hitler supported one position or another is irrelevant. If gun control is a step towards despotism, I wonder where the fascist regimes of Canada and Britain have gone off to and left their countries to the unruly masses.

In any case, Hitler favored the state distribution and control of gun sales while bestowing guns to his own most ardent supporters. He did not favor the banning of guns.

[Bacon King]

1. Get drafted: Never
2. Consume Alcoholic Beverages: 16; any age with parental consent
3. Consume energy drinks (such as red bull): any
4. Smoke Tobacco: 16
5. Smoke Marijuana: 16
6. Own a firearm: 18
7. Purchase pornography:16
8. Have sex with a 23 year old: 16
9. Get a drivers license: 15, though ideally 18 if public transportation were somewhat decent
10. Gamble: 16
11. Get a job: 14 w/ work permit, 16 always
12. Watch a rated R movie, 16 i guess, though any age if a parent allows it

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Given the current US government I don't trust the state. In a country that elections the like of the bushes, Reagan and next year HRC I don't feel safe with any gun control.

[Bacon King]

Gun control is a step towards despotism. Hitler favored gun control.

I'm pretty sure its a rule of the internet that if you mention Hitler in an unrelated political debate, you automatically lose.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

No that rule only applies for USENET. Try again.

[Joe Republic]

Gun control is a step towards despotism. Hitler favored gun control.

I'm pretty sure its a rule of the internet that if you mention Hitler in an unrelated political debate, you automatically lose.

Godwin's law

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

If gun control is a step towards despotism, I wonder where the fascist regimes of Canada and Britain have gone off to and left their countries to the unruly masses.

Except you can buy just about any gun in Canada that you can in the US. Haven't you seen Bowling for Columbine?

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Gun control is a step towards despotism. Hitler favored gun control.

I'm pretty sure its a rule of the internet that if you mention Hitler in an unrelated political debate, you automatically lose.

Godwin's law

That only applies to USENET debates and thus doesn't count.