Libertarianism vs Communitarianism

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

this should be interesting.

[Lechasseur]

Communitarianism (R)

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Communitarianism (I/O)

[America Needs R'hllor]

Libertarianism (I/O)

[RINO Tom]

Libertarianism (freedom loving R)

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
own were; any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.

[Santander]

Libertarianism (libertarian)

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

I think a balance of both is best and most reasonable.

[Kingpoleon]

No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
own were; any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.

Who are you? Who am I? I am not you. You are not me. I believe in freedom and liberty, for community is the tyranny of the masses. Furthermore, the community is made up of individuals. He who proposes communitarianism supports not one minority: for the smallest minority is the individual. Let he who claims to have empathy therefore put one man's liberty ahead of his own security, and his own liberty ahead of another man's safety. For if not, he has proven himself a hypocrite in what his ideology pretends to offer: empathy.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

No man is an island entire of itself

Back in the day, I got to help paint this phrase on a campus rock!

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

I think a balance of both is best and most reasonable.

[Mr. Smith]

Communitarianism (D)

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I don't consider them opposites.  Which I identify with more depends on the definition. 

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I think a balance of both is best and most reasonable.

I agree a mix of the two is best, but if forced to choose between the two...

[vanguard96]

Given the choice of course libertarianism.

It is preferable to participate in the community - that way you can voluntarily exchange your ideas, talents, and services with a wider range of people. It does not violate ANY principle of individual liberty.  Voluntary & free association is a key aspect of all aspects of a libertarian society including forming groups and associations that maybe are limited in interest and scope and who they serve. It goes along with the key concepts of private property.

However when the ill-defined 'common good' or 'society' in aggregate trumps the rights of individuals and association and provision of services is under compulsion of the state that is when I will side with the individual.

[DC Al Fine]

Communitarianism by a country mile.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Western libertarian society is genuinely sociopathic.

[parochial boy]

Western libertarian society is genuinely sociopathic.

This, absolutely this. The way we behave actually does affect other people, and this will always be the case no matter how much the cult of individualism tries to wish it away.

[JA]

Western libertarian society is genuinely sociopathic.

This, absolutely this. The way we behave actually does affect other people, and this will always be the case no matter how much the cult of individualism tries to wish it away.

We can never escape the impact others have on us, nor our impact on others. If it was not for socialization, humans could not even speak (consider the cases where a child was raised in the wilderness or in isolation). We're inescapably social animals. As persons, we should have our respected rights to self-expression, freedom of thought, and so on, just as we should have rights to material and cultural resources to empower us to live fulfilling lives. At the same time, we cannot use those rights at the expense of others. So, a balance must be struck with the goal of achieving a harmonious community.

Anyone who thinks rabid individualism leads to anything but despair shows they don't understand the foundational qualities of what makes us human.

[SATW]

Libertarianism, easily.

On social media, I've done a few collab posts w/ libertarians on economic issues.

[The Govanah Jake]

Libertarianism 

[All Along The Watchtower]

Not Libertarianism (human being, normal)

[SNJ1985]

On balance, communitarianism.

[RFayette]

On balance, communitarianism.

This, though both have the potential for a lot of issues.

[nclib]

While in theory, my views are closer to libertarianism, I'd going to say Communitarianism because of these gripes against libertarianism:

- focus almost exclusively on economics and guns rather than the issues where libertarians ally with liberals.

- focus on the government being the far biggest threat to individual liberty, while in practice, other entities (corporations, etc.) can be very restricting.

- it is totally amazing what economic right-wingers and corporations will do just for profit, and it is necessary for the government (or other entity if possible but it doesn't seem like the private sector or free market can/will do this) needs to be a check in order to protect human rights, public health, etc.