Trump bans transgenders from military service

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I can see the court case (if one happens) to base it on discrimination of procedures, singling out one vs. allowance of all care, esp if done via TriCare/VA/base hospitals. Does the DoD have the right to prefer certain care in the overall structure as opposed to all? Would be an interesting SCOTUS case.

This one's not getting fast tracked to SCOTUS.......and it will be interesting to see if they even want to go there.

[Person Man]

I can see the court case (if one happens) to base it on discrimination of procedures, singling out one vs. allowance of all care, esp if done via TriCare/VA/base hospitals. Does the DoD have the right to prefer certain care in the overall structure as opposed to all? Would be an interesting SCOTUS case.

I though the military wasn't fully subject to some Constitutional protections. DADT was repealed like 10 years after Lawrence v. Texas?

[TDAS04]

Go f**k yourself, Donald.

[Santander]

The only thing I have to say is that Twitter is an inappropriate platform to make this kind of announcement.

[SoLongAtlas]

I can see the court case (if one happens) to base it on discrimination of procedures, singling out one vs. allowance of all care, esp if done via TriCare/VA/base hospitals. Does the DoD have the right to prefer certain care in the overall structure as opposed to all? Would be an interesting SCOTUS case.

I though the military wasn't fully subject to some Constitutional protections. DADT was repealed like 10 years after Lawrence v. Texas?

It's essentially within its own branch of federalism, separate legal system (UCMJ), separate chain (answerable to CINC), but funded by the taxpayer through Congress.

Here is a good briefer on case law, precedents, etc. http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/law/rights_of_military_mbrs.pdf

[Brittain33]

The only thing I have to say is that Twitter is an inappropriate platform to make this kind of announcement.

Seriously. Where's the policy? Are they going to expel all TG people from the military? What kind of discharge? Too many questions.

[JGibson]

Yet another shameful decision by our “President”. Time and time again, he has proven that he isn’t an ally of the LGBTQ community at all.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I partially see the logic in this, but it just seems like it's the mean spirited brainchild of some hyper hawkish gung ho general.

Being transgendered seems absolutely grueling. Not only will you have to deal with bigotry that is much fiercer than just garden variety homophobia, but also with a large degree of internal turmoil. Gender identity shouldn't hinder any individuals ability to serve if they're physically qualified. If they can pass a physical fitness test and have none of the drama/baggage that many (but not all) of the transpeople I know have, why not?

I'm sorry, but the drag queen I met last month manning the "Trans-Liberation Army" booth on the FSU campus is decidedly not fit for service. I've never known a transperson who I could see being taken by the army. But then again, few people in general make the cut. Certainly none of the hawkish Young Republicans I know.

[SoLongAtlas]

The only thing I have to say is that Twitter is an inappropriate platform to make this kind of announcement.

Seriously. Where's the policy? Are they going to expel all TG people from the military? What kind of discharge? Too many questions.

It that was to occur, it would likely be an admin sep, Honorable or General discharge. Both are good but you def want to sep with HON.

[SoLongAtlas]

Now he's going on about Sessions again right after a landmark decision was made. JFC...

[emailking]

This is disgusting.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Lol, Trump just keeps going down the rabbit hole of stupidity doesn't he?

[MasterJedi]

It's not a serious mental disorder, but military service gives almost all who serve actual serious mental disorders (PTSD, anxiety, depression, etc).

[emailking]

People who are mentally unstable should probably not be serving on the front lines. But just because someone is transgendered doesn't mean they're mentally unstable.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Categorical bans like this are dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

[Gass3268]

When you've lost Richard Shelby:

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[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

People who are mentally unstable should probably not be serving on the front lines. But just because someone is transgendered doesn't mean they're mentally unstable.

The GOP seems just fine with having someone who's mentally unstable as Commander-in_Chief, so the claim is irrelevant hypocrisy even if they were right.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

It's not a serious mental disorder, but military service gives almost all who serve actual serious mental disorders (PTSD, anxiety, depression, etc).

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War is hell. I'm actually somewhat happy for the transpeople who get to avoid it now, however unjustified the move actually may be.

Mort does have a point that transpeople often, but not always, experience other mental issues. I fully trust the army to screen those people out. A blanket ban is just unnecessary.

[Devout Centrist]

LGBT FOR TRUMP AMIRITE?!

[kyc0705]

Trump admits he's using transgenders as a campaign prop:

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Just the GOP being bigots as usual

Emily Nussbaum compared it to Bush bringing up gay marriage in 2004.

[Santander]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

LGBT FOR TRUMP AMIRITE?!

Every gay Trumpist I've followed on Twitter besides #ThePersistance have voiced support for this, so yeah.

[emailking]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

[Person Man]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

Because we manage to make 50% issues out of 10% or 90% ones?

[Santander]

Other countries laugh at us for fighting over things like this. This is <1% of the population we're talking about here.

So what? 0.001% of our population died on 9/11 and it dominated our national discussion for years. <1% of the population matters.

That was an attack on civilians by terrorists, not government policy that affects a tiny minority of people.