Trump bans transgenders from military service

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

IIRC, General Mattis was the driving force behind this, no?  

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

IIRC, General Mattis was the driving force behind this, no?  

He pushed back against an outright ban but helped to delay a decision on it. I'm assuming Trump in his tweet "with the generals" was the JCS and SecDef. Curious to see how that one was decided, split or unanimous.

Yeah I mean I'm not really behind this decision but I doubt Trump just decided on his own without both the JCS and Mattis supporting it.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I can see the court case (if one happens) to base it on discrimination of procedures, singling out one vs. allowance of all care, esp if done via TriCare/VA/base hospitals. Does the DoD have the right to prefer certain care in the overall structure as opposed to all? Would be an interesting SCOTUS case.

This one's not getting fast tracked to SCOTUS.......and it will be interesting to see if they even want to go there.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I'm guessing we're good for 10 pages? 

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

IIRC, General Mattis was the driving force behind this, no?  

He pushed back against an outright ban but helped to delay a decision on it. I'm assuming Trump in his tweet "with the generals" was the JCS and SecDef. Curious to see how that one was decided, split or unanimous.

Yeah I mean I'm not really behind this decision but I doubt Trump just decided on his own without both the JCS and Mattis supporting it.

A more likely culprit for driving force on this decision: the Vice President.

Neh, Pence would delight in a cool down period where nothing controversial happens for a month or so.  

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Headline from Reuters but no article  yet:

MORE: Pentagon has already decided to allow currently-serving transgender troops to stay in military - Senate Armed Forces Chairman McCain

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Either Badger or Reaganfan needs to change their avatar or just quit arguing.  I can't figure out who is who.  

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Either Badger or Reaganfan needs to change their avatar or just quit arguing.  I can't figure out who is who.  

So says the Atlas member displaying a Russian flag.

Man I'm glad someone finally noticed.  I like to change it up often after someone does.  Thanks! 

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Either Badger or Reaganfan needs to change their avatar or just quit arguing.  I can't figure out who is who.  

So says the Atlas member displaying a Russian flag.

Man I'm glad someone finally noticed.  I like to change it up often after someone does.  Thanks! 

Change it to Macedonia. If you squint it looks like a bloodied asshole. It'll suit you

Deal, Andrew!

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

So how do you think the troops (in all services) feel about this?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

DOD costs for trans-related medical service: 2-8 million.
Extra Cost for Secret Service to protect Trump in NYC & FL: 120 million.

The cost issue is a red herring.  He should have not mentioned it  It would have been more honest.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

B33's reply is exactly correct from what I've seen.  No one currently serving will be ousted.  A ban on new service is what this is.  I still don't agree with it, but no one asked me.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Anyways, next order of business.

Yes. Reversing this order.

in 2021

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Anyways, next order of business.

Yes. Reversing this order.

in 2021

Now now, don't get strange on me Grumps. Come on.

I'm trying to give Badger hope.