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« on: July 28, 2017, 07:50:54 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2017, 08:04:42 AM »
« Edited: July 28, 2017, 08:21:54 AM by Power to the Pe p e! »

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8IVI0sZ6F8

What I am waiting for is that some of these gene editing trials actually start and some of them actually are safe and effective.
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2017, 08:37:18 AM »

I thought Atlas was against eugenics?
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2017, 08:41:09 AM »

Yeah, no, unless you support eugenics, this crap needs to be outlawed.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2017, 08:46:56 AM »

Fabulous!!! So close ensuring my two beautiful boys - one blonde, one an olive brunette - behave exactly as I desire them to
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2017, 08:55:00 AM »

I thought Atlas was against eugenics?
Yeah, no, unless you support eugenics, this crap needs to be outlawed.

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This is scientific progress, not the rise of the Herrenvolk.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2017, 08:59:04 AM »

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This is scientific progress, not the rise of the Herrenvolk.
Eugenics is eugenics. And also, the slippery slope is very relevant here.
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2017, 10:42:14 AM »
« Edited: July 28, 2017, 12:13:51 PM by Cashew »

I have no doubt this is a slippery slope, and we definitely need legislation to cap it, nethertheless you have to be f***ing insane to be against wiping out genes that cause disease.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2017, 10:46:35 AM »

I have no doubt this is a slippery slope, and we definitly need legislation to cap it, nethertheless you have to be ing insane to be against wiping out genes that cause disease.

Unless you are an anti-vaxxer.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2017, 10:59:18 AM »

oh yeah, I forgot good news was troll bait to Luddites.  How dare future humans be healthier, smarter and live longer lives...those bastards, haven't they ever seen a movie?
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2017, 11:02:06 AM »
« Edited: July 28, 2017, 11:05:09 AM by Santander »

I have no problems if people are okay with some kinds of eugenics, just as I have no problems if some people are pro-choice. That's fine, let's have the discussion. I just prefer that people are out in the open about it. If we talk about it, it should be talked about openly without the usual pearl-clutching and cowardly name-calling that ensues whenever someone dares bring up the subject.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2017, 11:19:26 AM »

oh yeah, I forgot good news was troll bait to Luddites.  How dare future humans be healthier, smarter and live longer lives...those bastards, haven't they ever seen a movie?

Luddites are probably the most annoying people on the right. Almost their version of SJWs.
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2017, 02:37:42 PM »

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This is scientific progress, not the rise of the Herrenvolk.

Who decides what a defective gene is?
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2017, 02:40:20 PM »

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This is scientific progress, not the rise of the Herrenvolk.

Who decides what a defective gene is?

Who decides what "sick" is?
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2017, 03:00:04 PM »

I thought Atlas was against eugenics?
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This is scientific progress, not the rise of the Herrenvolk.

Who decides what a defective gene is?

You know exactly what the article considers a defective gene. If you have a problem with it just spit it.
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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2017, 09:53:48 PM »

oh yeah, I forgot good news was troll bait to Luddites.  How dare future humans be healthier, smarter and live longer lives...those bastards, haven't they ever seen a movie?

Luddites are probably the most annoying people on the right. Almost their version of SJWs.

And the left. If they did this to a vegatable (which they are all the time just not on things being sold commercially) Vermont would probably try to ban it. I do agree with you though. As previous posters have said, anyone who opposes helping people with this technology is a monster. CRISPR/cas is one of the greatest scientific achievments in recent years and has huge potential for medicine and agriculture.
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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2017, 11:24:33 PM »

oh yeah, I forgot good news was troll bait to Luddites.  How dare future humans be healthier, smarter and live longer lives...those bastards, haven't they ever seen a movie?

It's funny you should say that because Gattaca immediately comes to mind.

I'm surprised that movie hasn't been mentioned before I replied to this thread.
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2017, 12:31:39 AM »

Great News!
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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2017, 07:53:30 AM »

oh yeah, I forgot good news was troll bait to Luddites.  How dare future humans be healthier, smarter and live longer lives...those bastards, haven't they ever seen a movie?

It's funny you should say that because Gattaca immediately comes to mind.

I'm surprised that movie hasn't been mentioned before I replied to this thread.
I don't like movies where the main protagonist is the worst person in the film.
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2017, 08:14:10 AM »

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This is scientific progress, not the rise of the Herrenvolk.

Who decides what a defective gene is?

This worries me too. If we can find a way to excise genes like the BCRA breast cancer gene or the gene that codes for defective insulin production thats good. At the same time, when my mom was pregnant with my older brother she was in a bad car accident. My brother had a stroke in the womb which caused noticeable physical and mental developmental issues and a few people tried to steer her towards abortion because they thought my brother might be retarded. He's currently a high school teacher with 2 masters degrees which doesnt prove he's smart but does show he's a perfectly functional member of society. I cringe thinking about a lot of eugenics talk because taken to its extreme, I may never have had a brother because the "experts" were wrong in gauging how defective my unborn brother was. And I will never agree that its better for a retarded person to have never existed rather than living what we may feel is a lesser life.

Not trying to strawman here. This is just a very complex issue and I think we should approach policy with caution and respect for all people, including those with genetic defects.
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2017, 09:08:43 AM »

God help us all.
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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2017, 09:26:43 AM »

This is horrible.  We will destroy ourselves.  We're not GOD.
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2017, 10:32:20 AM »

oh yeah, I forgot good news was troll bait to Luddites.  How dare future humans be healthier, smarter and live longer lives...those bastards, haven't they ever seen a movie?

It's funny you should say that because Gattaca immediately comes to mind.

I'm surprised that movie hasn't been mentioned before I replied to this thread.
I don't like movies where the main protagonist is the worst person in the film.

His parents were basically anti-vaxxers.
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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2017, 12:34:39 PM »

Fabulous!!! So close ensuring my two beautiful boys - one blonde, one an olive brunette - behave exactly as I desire them to
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2017, 05:41:59 PM »

Fabulous!!! So close ensuring my two beautiful boys - one blonde, one an olive brunette - behave exactly as I desire them to

And this is why Measels is coming back.
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