Was the US presidential election of 1860 legally/constitutionally valid?
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All Along The Watchtower
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« on: July 28, 2017, 12:10:38 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2017, 01:35:20 PM »
Yes?
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2017, 01:47:26 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2017, 03:21:53 PM »
Why wouldn't it be?
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2017, 03:40:35 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2017, 04:03:08 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2017, 06:00:17 PM »
Yes. Unlike in the 1940s and 1960s, there was no rampant voter fraud.
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2017, 07:43:49 PM »

Ask the Lost Cause crowd. I'm sure we have a few here; Trump is President, so those views are obviously utterly mainstream.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2017, 07:45:45 PM »
Quote from: PR on July 28, 2017, 07:43:49 PM

Ask the Lost Cause crowd. I'm sure we have a few here; Trump is President, so those views are obviously utterly mainstream.

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2017, 09:39:46 PM »
Quote from: Alabama_Indy10 on July 28, 2017, 07:45:45 PM
Quote from: PR on July 28, 2017, 07:43:49 PM

Ask the Lost Cause crowd. I'm sure we have a few here; Trump is President, so those views are obviously utterly mainstream.

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

I concur.
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2017, 02:40:09 AM »
Quote from: Kingpoleon on July 28, 2017, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: Alabama_Indy10 on July 28, 2017, 07:45:45 PM
Quote from: PR on July 28, 2017, 07:43:49 PM

Ask the Lost Cause crowd. I'm sure we have a few here; Trump is President, so those views are obviously utterly mainstream.

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

I concur.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2017, 10:43:43 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Reactionary on July 29, 2017, 02:40:09 AM
Quote from: Kingpoleon on July 28, 2017, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: Alabama_Indy10 on July 28, 2017, 07:45:45 PM
Quote from: PR on July 28, 2017, 07:43:49 PM

Ask the Lost Cause crowd. I'm sure we have a few here; Trump is President, so those views are obviously utterly mainstream.

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

I concur.

Yeah PR that was ridiculous. I've never once heard someone say this and especially not from a Trump supporter.
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2017, 01:45:19 PM »
Uh, yes?

Also I'll just echo some of the comments here.  Like man if you are going to just come up with a random radical hypothetical you have to at least give us background or something besides "muh Trump supporters".
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2017, 02:04:02 PM »
Yes (obvious, normal, I/O)
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2017, 02:56:27 PM »
Quote from: TheSaint250 on July 29, 2017, 10:43:43 AM
Yeah PR that was ridiculous. I've never once heard someone say this and especially not from a Trump supporter.
Really? I have, though in fairness I've no idea if the person in question voted for Trump. I'd imagine this opinion is more popular with the "abolish the federal government" D.W. Perry types.

In any case, Lincoln's election was obviously valid; arguably more so than the ratification of the Constitution itself, if you want to get technical.
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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2017, 03:07:45 PM »
Am I missing something here? I've never heard this election called into question...
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2017, 03:19:21 PM »
Quote from: Goldwater on July 29, 2017, 03:07:45 PM
Am I missing something here? I've never heard this election called into question...

Can't put anything past the hardcore Neo-Confederates.
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2017, 04:24:50 PM »
Lincoln was not on the ballot in the south . So it was unfair to Lincoln
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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2017, 04:28:37 PM »
Quote from: Saguaro on July 29, 2017, 03:19:21 PM
Quote from: Goldwater on July 29, 2017, 03:07:45 PM
Am I missing something here? I've never heard this election called into question...

Can't put anything past the hardcore Neo-Confederates.
Confederate monuments and statues are not on the rise, though...
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2017, 04:58:23 PM »
Quote from: Kingpoleon on July 28, 2017, 06:00:17 PM
Yes. Unlike in the 1940s and 1960s, there was no rampant voter fraud.

lol

though on balance my guess is voter fraud/suppression in 1860 was more helpful to the Democrats.
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2017, 07:28:16 PM »
Quote from: Old School Republican on July 29, 2017, 04:24:50 PM
Lincoln was not on the ballot in the south . So it was unfair to Lincoln

Exactly. Yet somehow the south felt it was unfair to them.
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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2017, 10:28:40 PM »
Quote from: darklordoftech on July 29, 2017, 07:28:16 PM
Quote from: Old School Republican on July 29, 2017, 04:24:50 PM
Lincoln was not on the ballot in the south . So it was unfair to Lincoln

Exactly. Yet somehow the south felt it was unfair to them.

To be fair, Breckinridge and Bell weren't on the ballot in many states...
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2017, 10:47:17 PM »
Quote from: Prime Minister Truman on July 29, 2017, 02:56:27 PM
Quote from: TheSaint250 on July 29, 2017, 10:43:43 AM
Yeah PR that was ridiculous. I've never once heard someone say this and especially not from a Trump supporter.
Really? I have, though in fairness I've no idea if the person in question voted for Trump. I'd imagine this opinion is more popular with the "abolish the federal government" D.W. Perry types.
Just to clarify what I meant to say, I meant that I've never heard anyone say this and especially not someone who would have voted for Trump, one of the two major candidates.  I'm just basically trying to say that even though some on here think Trump supporters are net-confederates, no supporters that I know of have ever said this and that the only possible challenges would be from some ultra-fringe group.
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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2017, 12:46:24 AM »
No election held before the passage of the 18th amendment was valid
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2017, 11:24:00 AM »
Quote from: AtorBoltox on July 30, 2017, 12:46:24 AM
No election held before the passage of the 18th amendment was valid
No election held before prohibition was valid?
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